Playable Beatrix
#1
25 November 2015 - 08:26 AM
#2
25 November 2015 - 08:49 AM
Second, I'm pretty sure adding Beatrix would take a lot of work for basically no reason.
Third, if Beatrix was able to be a permanent character, you wouldn't use her. She is pretty weak in this mod. During the sequences where you get to use her, she spends a huge majority of the time dead. The beatrix parts are 2 of the 3 hardest parts in the entire mod, in large part to how shitty she is. Making her a permanent character as she is would change nothing, as she would spend the entire game on your bench.
#3
25 November 2015 - 09:22 AM
#7
25 November 2015 - 09:57 AM
#8
25 November 2015 - 03:47 PM
Kjata, on 25 November 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:
Second, I'm pretty sure adding Beatrix would take a lot of work for basically no reason.
Third, if Beatrix was able to be a permanent character, you wouldn't use her. She is pretty weak in this mod. During the sequences where you get to use her, she spends a huge majority of the time dead. The beatrix parts are 2 of the 3 hardest parts in the entire mod, in large part to how shitty she is. Making her a permanent character as she is would change nothing, as she would spend the entire game on your bench.
To be fair, I remember in some of his earlier posts he did juggle around with the idea which is partially WHY she's so awful, because she's balanced around the notion of being a "party member," but is never implemented. Plus, IIRC she's actually naked on that part which is some of the reason she's so wretched on the parts your thinking of.
#9
25 November 2015 - 03:57 PM
Augestein, on 25 November 2015 - 03:47 PM, said:
Nah, it's because she just sorta dies, does miserable damage without using her swordskills, and has barely enough mp to climhazzard once.
And unless that was the plan from the beginning, I don't think she's bad because she was meant to be a party member. She has been bad for a long time. She's just bad because it makes the game hard. Like, back in the beginning Vivi was utterly worthless between lindblum up until you got an -ara spell. He would die to everything, have enough mp for like 5 casts of fire, and fire did poor damage compared to Zidane/Freya melees and comparable damage to quina's average fork roll. He was so bad he was a liability, cuz he would require constant phoenix downs which drained pretty hard on your limited money, and required constant ethers to do anything besides throw potions at people. Stuff is just bad, because it makes the game harder.
#10
25 November 2015 - 04:18 PM
#11
25 November 2015 - 05:50 PM
Garet980, on 25 November 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:
For vivi, I'm talking about 3 years ago when Fire costed 14mp and Fira costed 29. He was trash tier. He was even worse back then than Beatrix is now.
#12
25 November 2015 - 06:25 PM
Kjata, on 25 November 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:
Yeah, I remember that, and Bio was like 40 something for MP cost. So that's changed since then?
And yeah, I remember reading that in the beginning before the game was even playable on the account that it was one of the things that I actually looked forward to. And yeah, Vivi was garbage tier at that point, and Focus abuse on bosses was like the only saving grace because during bosses everyone was getting OHKO left and right outside of Freya and Steiner, and possibly Garnet if you did Hot and Cold.
#13
25 November 2015 - 07:08 PM
Augestein, on 25 November 2015 - 06:25 PM, said:
And yeah, I remember reading that in the beginning before the game was even playable on the account that it was one of the things that I actually looked forward to. And yeah, Vivi was garbage tier at that point, and Focus abuse on bosses was like the only saving grace because during bosses everyone was getting OHKO left and right outside of Freya and Steiner, and possibly Garnet if you did Hot and Cold.
Yeah, he has a bit more hp now, and the mp on spells was reduced to 8/24/40 I think.