Angel, on 24 October 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:
I think this is a very good rule. What's this? I can't learn Shadowwalk? This is unthinkable!
You can actually learn Shadowwalk quite early in comparison to Vanilla, just not through examine.
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24 October 2013 - 09:35 PM
You can actually learn Shadowwalk quite early in comparison to Vanilla, just not through examine.
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24 October 2013 - 09:46 PM
I would mention a skill that you'd come up with answer like this for, now wouldn't I? 
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24 October 2013 - 10:17 PM
Angel, on 24 October 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
I would mention a skill that you'd come up with answer like this for, now wouldn't I?
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24 October 2013 - 10:59 PM
Advent, on 24 October 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:
They're supposed to run when alone. Are you playing on 0.1e?
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I know that Shield does correctly display that response, because quite frankly I don't know where to go to even turn it off; it's probably hardcoded. I've also seen it numerous times while trying to learn Influence. Counter should not be able to be learned like that, no. Speaking of which, I need to flag the Eye Goo for reprisal at that point (when it starts using Counter) when I throw out 0.2, because Counter does absolutely nothing for it right now since it's incapable of reprisals.
Boss Goblin fight starts at 4:53 in the vid.
Boss Goblin was never alone, i was just focusing him to see how fast i could take him down and it ended up with him shielding up so much that my attacks started doing 0.
Goblin used Shield when Ryu was examining him and question mark didn't pop up. Maybe it doesn't always pop up even for unlearnable abilities? Same scenario for Eye Goo probably.
Also woot, caught a bug
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For 0.1? Probably, because I didn't even think about it at that point. For 0.2? Nope! I looked at the Manillo Shop just after I changed the Masters, so they should be in a good spot. The Silver Knife will be unchanged, but the ghosts in McNeil's Manor will have much higher Holy resistance. The Holy property on the weapon will still net you a damage boost, just not as heavy as it did before.
The armor has been balanced in accordance with current available shop armor. Do keep in mind that the changes to Manillo gear is for 0.2 though. In 1.0 they're untouched, so it's quite possible you might break something with them.
The armor has been balanced in accordance with current available shop armor. Do keep in mind that the changes to Manillo gear is for 0.2 though. In 1.0 they're untouched, so it's quite possible you might break something with them.
So Manillo <might> make mt.Glaus ez mode. Noted.
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That being said, you might be better off using the Melted Blade anyway, as it has a Fire property now.
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A general rule when trying to find out what you can learn through examine is this: if it seems too OP for that point in the game, you probably can't learn it. 
Still gotta go through the motions
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Edit: Also, edited your post with spoiler tags for the videos. It helps keep the lag down both for myself (I generally have far too many tabs open) and users on their smartphones.
Thanks, will do that in the future.
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24 October 2013 - 11:22 PM
maxi, on 24 October 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:
Goblin used Shield when Ryu was examining him and question mark didn't pop up. Maybe it doesn't always pop up even for unlearnable abilities? Same scenario for Eye Goo probably.
Actually that has nothing to do with them being unlearnable. There is a learn chance for every ability; it's all RNG. If they use it while you're examining them and the game checks for the learnable flag (the learn chance procs), it shows the question mark and message. If it doesn't, you get nothing.
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24 October 2013 - 11:38 PM
Advent, on 24 October 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:
Actually that has nothing to do with them being unlearnable. There is a learn chance for every ability; it's all RNG. If they use it while you're examining them and the game checks for the learnable flag (the learn chance procs), it shows the question mark and message. If it doesn't, you get nothing.
Might be a good idea to give all unlearnable abilities 100% chance to pop that question mark, then.
It is a minor usability fix, but it definitely would make at least my life easier in the future.
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24 October 2013 - 11:49 PM
maxi, on 24 October 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:
Might be a good idea to give all unlearnable abilities 100% chance to pop that question mark, then.
It is a minor usability fix, but it definitely would make at least my life easier in the future.
It is a minor usability fix, but it definitely would make at least my life easier in the future.
It's the same thing in Vanilla, and honestly it'd be annoying as hell because it would pop that message up every single time.
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25 October 2013 - 03:08 AM
better than trying to learn ability for unknown amount of turns only to then find out that you can't
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25 October 2013 - 04:24 AM
maxi, on 25 October 2013 - 03:08 AM, said:
better than trying to learn ability for unknown amount of turns only to then find out that you can't
I second this.
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25 October 2013 - 01:02 PM
Fair enough. I'll raise the learn rate on those abilities so they show up frequently, but not 100% of the time.
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25 October 2013 - 01:06 PM
Also, apparently Counter is learnable.. Oops.
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25 October 2013 - 09:06 PM
In the midnight hour, she cried MORE MORE MORE!!!!
... ahem
Too much Scooter (and Billy Idol, by extension)
... ahem
Too much Scooter
(and Billy Idol, by extension)
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Reason for edit: Spoiler tags, bro.
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25 October 2013 - 09:27 PM
1) That's not your emulator. I have the same problems when I play.
2) Goblins have no abilities, and I'm unable to set enemy reprisal percentages; I can only flag/unflag them for reprisal.
3) I'm actually really glad the Mage Goo didn't one shot you right there; I wasn't sure if the nerf I gave them would be enough to prevent that. Mage Goos become rape incarnate when they're alone.
4) I can tell you what abilities are available if you want.
2) Goblins have no abilities, and I'm unable to set enemy reprisal percentages; I can only flag/unflag them for reprisal.
3) I'm actually really glad the Mage Goo didn't one shot you right there; I wasn't sure if the nerf I gave them would be enough to prevent that. Mage Goos become rape incarnate when they're alone.
4) I can tell you what abilities are available if you want.
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25 October 2013 - 10:00 PM
Advent, on 25 October 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:
1) That's not your emulator. I have the same problems when I play.
2) Goblins have no abilities, and I'm unable to set enemy reprisal percentages; I can only flag/unflag them for reprisal.
3) I'm actually really glad the Mage Goo didn't one shot you right there; I wasn't sure if the nerf I gave them would be enough to prevent that. Mage Goos become rape incarnate when they're alone.
4) I can tell you what abilities are available if you want.
2) Goblins have no abilities, and I'm unable to set enemy reprisal percentages; I can only flag/unflag them for reprisal.
3) I'm actually really glad the Mage Goo didn't one shot you right there; I wasn't sure if the nerf I gave them would be enough to prevent that. Mage Goos become rape incarnate when they're alone.
4) I can tell you what abilities are available if you want.
Turns out, my emulator actually has an undocumented speed up feature that somehow ended up being bound to the same key as my triangle key /facepalm
List of abilities would be pretty cool
. I will be able to playtest learnability better then.
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25 October 2013 - 10:03 PM
Oh, it also would be cool if you could introduce some indication for the player that the monster is about to enter a deadly pattern.
For example, when a mage goo is left alone it can emote something like "Mage goo is scared!". This would allow players who don't have your support easily accessible to understand what exactly caused the rape.
For example, when a mage goo is left alone it can emote something like "Mage goo is scared!". This would allow players who don't have your support easily accessible to understand what exactly caused the rape.
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25 October 2013 - 10:11 PM
maxi, on 25 October 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:
Oh, it also would be cool if you could introduce some indication for the player that the monster is about to enter a deadly pattern.
For example, when a mage goo is left alone it can emote something like "Mage goo is scared!". This would allow players who don't have your support easily accessible to understand what exactly caused the rape.
For example, when a mage goo is left alone it can emote something like "Mage goo is scared!". This would allow players who don't have your support easily accessible to understand what exactly caused the rape.
I can, but to do that without taking away messages for other enemies I'd have to rearrange the pointers which is way out of my comfort zone.
And here's that list:
Mage Goo - Burn
Eye Goo - Counter (unintentional, will be fixed in 0.2), Double Blow
Ripper - Blind
Gonghead - Thunder Clap
Boss Goblin - Influence
That.. should be it.
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25 October 2013 - 10:16 PM
Gonghead giving the clap. That's dangerous.
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25 October 2013 - 10:18 PM
Angel, on 25 October 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:
Gonghead giving the clap. That's dangerous.
This made me laugh way harder than it should have.
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25 October 2013 - 10:55 PM
Advent, on 25 October 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:
I can, but to do that without taking away messages for other enemies I'd have to rearrange the pointers which is way out of my comfort zone.
Yeah pointers can mess things up
I guess this can be saved for later polish, should the mod prove popular enough.
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That.. should be it.
That.. should be it.
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25 October 2013 - 10:57 PM
Also you can learn Wind Strike from Ripper.
Bit of a shame that Nue absorbs wind now
Bit of a shame that Nue absorbs wind now
