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#21 Anima Zero

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21 December 2016 - 04:33 PM

Currently just picked up Guy. Maxim lv21, Tia lv20.

Noticed a couple bugs too. First....

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Power Brace's description decided to enter the twilight zone. At the very least this one could be opened up. The Light Knife from Alunze Basement dungeon just resets the game and hangs if you try to check its description out of battle.

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More of a query than anything...it is possible to modify a character's starting exp level so things like this don't happen? I think that's the total amount of exp (starting amount + tnl amount) to hit 17. Kinda crazy when Maxim & Tia take half as long at their current levels, heh. Not a giant deal really, but just wanted to put this out there.

#22 Praetarius5018

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22 December 2016 - 02:51 AM

Anima Zero, on 21 December 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Ok, that is weird... I'll check this when I get home.
Just to make sure:
you used a (U) rom?
headered or not?
Other descriptions are (so far) ok?

Which item is that one? In the rare chance we have 2 Power Brace IPs, one real and one that miracously resulted from trash.

Anima Zero, on 21 December 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

It should be possible, but it'll require starting the game from the beginning since initial stats (incl. level and exp) are set right at the start.
Arty will have a tough time, currently he'll be stuck at his starting level for half the remaining game.
At least I should be able to check that quickly via Gift Mode.

#23 Artemis

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22 December 2016 - 04:46 AM

I don't like the final boss. That, however, hasn't anything to do with your changes, but instead it's because Daos just is such a shitty written villain in plain vanilla who just doesn't deserve a second form at all.

#24 Anima Zero

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22 December 2016 - 08:36 AM

Praetarius5018, on 22 December 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

Yes to the rom, unheadered, and so far other descriptions seem to be fine. I'll keep an eye out for any other messed up descriptions.

As for the Power Brace....it's a shield from the cave to the northwest of Alunze (the dungeon right before you go to the next town to pick up Guy). It's IP move is Spell Repel (boosts MGR).

#25 Praetarius5018

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22 December 2016 - 09:17 AM

Artemis, on 22 December 2016 - 04:46 AM, said:

Dunno if I'd go that far; yes compared to Gades and Amon he's "just there".
With Gades it is personal, he (probably) beat you once. Daos? Well, at least he's no Zalbak "suddenly there because" final boss.

I wanted to go with the final boss being Guard Daos, but, well, Erim's there too, so that doesn't fit 100% lorewise.
Plus I'd not a proper sprite still.

Anima Zero, on 22 December 2016 - 08:36 AM, said:

Yes to the rom, unheadered, and so far other descriptions seem to be fine. I'll keep an eye out for any other messed up descriptions.

Ok, I got a save with most items in the forfeit pawn shop, so I can check.
And I get the resets too. Also from Deadly Swords, still more to check :thumbdown:

well, I could track it down to Rainponcho's patch "Chaed_Submarine_Cave" - and away it goes...

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#26 Artemis

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22 December 2016 - 11:17 AM

Strange, I haven't any problems at all with the submarine cave patch.

#27 Praetarius5018

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22 December 2016 - 11:56 AM

Dunno, probably interfered with something else I changed, but I don't recall editing anything in the affected ROM range; beats me.

#28 Artemis

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22 December 2016 - 11:58 AM

Oh yes, I remember, I relocated the map data to that range way more down and then rainponcho worked there, too.

Did you use my map fixer as well. If not, rainponcho's map fixer shouldn't work at all, anyway.

#29 Praetarius5018

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22 December 2016 - 01:11 PM

Ok, I didn't use that one because the changes ran through everything I had done until then and it didn't seem important :whistle:

so gotta move my stuff then, need to find where it can safely stay >.>

#30 Praetarius5018

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22 December 2016 - 02:31 PM

AuraOfTheDawn, on 19 December 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I would even be in favor of that stat loss. This is just a save if you've completely fucked your characters up, and need a respec, not just 'ohey, I wanna change out a spell' That encourages you not to do this unless you have to, even if stat potions are farmable, it'd be a hit to lose all-games stat potions (to say nothing of the shrine) and enough of one to not make the respec an immediate 'attractive option for optimal stats'.

...I can probably already add this in the next version.

Cost would be simple 50% of what you have.
And all skills would be gone except Reset and Light for probably obvious reasons.
Doesn't matter if someone is currently in the party, absent or still has to join; his/herskills would be gone if this option is used. Considering how expensive the later spells are (up to 65k) this shouldn't be too attractive. For 4x 36 skill slots this will eat a huge fortune.

#31 Anima Zero

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23 December 2016 - 09:43 AM

Just got my 4th party member. Levels are Maxim & Tia 30, Guy 29. Tarantula was nasty and I ended up burning two Miracles during the fight. Now to solo grind Selan in the Ruby Cave to get her the 80k exp she needs to hit lv25 (Yeah, if you can change the starting exp of characters, I'd do it. Just makes things look more clean and simple honestly. Hell, I'll almost certainly be doing a video playthrough of this hack once I'm done with my Breath of Fire Improved playthrough).

#32 Praetarius5018

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23 December 2016 - 10:56 AM

well, consider that at least done

v0.3
-altered the old man in Merix, bottom left house, into a skill reset service; costs 50% of your gold and removes all skills except Reset and Light, even of absent party members
-altered starting exp of all heroes to be more in-line with what they should have at their increased starting levels
-removed a conflicting patch for now

dunno about the NPC right when you get to Merix the first time, I only had an endgame save to work with, so... dunno; expect it to crash?

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#33 Artemis

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24 December 2016 - 08:42 AM

Another thing, I just found out that the Mega Shield is bugged. Actually it is supposed to reduce normal unelemental damage just by wearing it. However, they completely messed it up. I'll make a fix now. You have to consider, though, what you prefer as it surely affects the overall later meta-game.

And you know that the Pearl Brace reduces fire damage, right? As this also affects the meta-game quite a bit.

#34 Praetarius5018

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24 December 2016 - 08:57 AM

Artemis, on 24 December 2016 - 08:42 AM, said:

Are you sure that it should be this way?
I *think* that it is working as intended and the additional bytes are just part of the IP.
I think block/reflect IPs don't actually do anything by themselves except "activate" their item.

Either way, another thing done

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#35 Artemis

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24 December 2016 - 09:15 AM

Yay, Guard Daos! :thumbup:

However, yes, I am sure. There actually is a second error in the code so that the regular effect code also is part of the Ip code. This is how it's supposed to be (changes in bolt):

02 60 00 E2 03 70 94 04 24 28 80 00 00 13 00 5A 00 94 00 46 02 22 00

IP part:

07 27 00 00 21 00 (This sets the pointer correctly. However, this change is completely cosmetic.)
0C 2A 00 00 00

regular effect:

0C 81 2A 80
09 81 00 00 2D 00 (Change only this byte and it works as intended.)
00
42 0B 00 00

#36 Praetarius5018

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24 December 2016 - 09:35 AM

Artemis, on 24 December 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

Yay, Guard Daos! :thumbup:

I'm not sure he should be called that here since Guard Daos is only Gades+Amon+Daos, but here is also Erim; so dunno.

I don't think I will change the Mega Shield. There's way too many attacks that are neutral so it'd be way too powerful.

#37 Artemis

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24 December 2016 - 09:43 AM

That raises the question what's the actual deal with the name Guard Daos? I guess that knows no one for sure. In Japan it's Gardios (with Daos being called Dios). Also it's pure speculation whether or not he would look the same if Erim's included. Nothing really goes for it, however, also nothing really goes against it. So it's perfectly fine to go with the Guard Daos sprite. So, yay! :thumbup:

And yeah, I have the same thoughts about the Mega Shield. However, there's also to consider how hard it is to get as the puzzle is really, really hard to actually solve on your own. I only did it once without guide.

#38 Artemis

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24 December 2016 - 10:04 AM

What actually speaks for this sprite is, whereas we cannot make any real deductions on how a properly fusion of all 4 Sinistrals would look like, on the other hand we don't know whether this really IS a proper fusion. We know that Erim at this point isn't as mentally connected to the other Sinistrals any more so that it's perfectly justifiable to assume that she'll take no influence at the visual appearence.

Therefore she also might have no influence on the name, so Guard Daos might be okay.

Otherwise how about a more ambiguous name such as 'Deity of Doom'?

#39 Praetarius5018

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24 December 2016 - 01:29 PM

Ehh, he looks like Guard Daos, so he should be called Guard Daos.
And like the original Lufia1 (US) he properly ignores the Gades side to him xD

#40 Anima Zero

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26 December 2016 - 04:55 PM

Well, I stumbled into a bug today while doing some recordings. Good thing I always make save states at the end of each recording session because, well, I had purchased IP Up for Maxim before starting a video tonight. Saw the bug, ended up having to load a save state of basically the same situation I was in, but without the bug appearing.

Decided to play with the bug a little to see what was causing it. Seems to be passive abilities that trigger it.

Now, what is this bug precisely?

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Yeah. Loading up from an in game save as opposed to a save state turned IP Up into Fry (yes, you can get multiple copies of Fry by going to purchase another IP Up). R-Poison turned into Zap. Haven't tried it with the passive that boosts all stats by 5. Will check that out here shortly.

And, for the record, loading up a save state is just fine. No randomly morphing skills at all.

EDIT: Ok, it's not necessarily limited to just passives. Had Armor on Tia change into Coma. All Up changed into Warp.

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