The last C0 should be on Defend, not Jump. I'll make the correction myself once I get home and make sure the rest are correct. The three that should be changed are Row, Defend, and Morph, so they take less than a full turn. Thanks again!
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25 May 2016 - 08:07 PM
New version up with fancy ass disassembly and the bugs fixed and the run no-ops removed, since they were no-ops (lol).
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26 May 2016 - 07:12 AM
BNW development just keeps continuing. Nice.
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26 May 2016 - 02:13 PM
I'm always terrified when my topics get stickied. I remember back when nATB was just a little thing I hammered out because I was curious if I could learn ROM hacking and just mashed it together. Here I am at the top of the page, now.
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26 May 2016 - 05:05 PM
Yes, because it's not like all sorts of shit you've done hasn't already ended up in the mod proper >.>
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26 May 2016 - 06:59 PM
AND THAT WAS ALSO SCARY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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27 May 2016 - 08:07 AM
Any chance you can increase the time cost of Defend? Since the ATB bars stop entirely when someone's turn comes (so the X button is effectively useless), it'd be good to not have to defend the same character 2 or 3 times to get to a different character. For example, let's say you want to heal before attacking, and your healer is Strago or Terra (relatively slow), then you may have to defend with e.g. Locke several times before the healer gets their turn.
Oh, also good work on making it so the ATB bar still grows when attempting to run. It would be both annoying and unbalanced if this were not the case.
Oh, also good work on making it so the ATB bar still grows when attempting to run. It would be both annoying and unbalanced if this were not the case.
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27 May 2016 - 08:14 AM
It's a bit of a tough balance between a low and higher cost Defend, since I also want to make sure you can sandbag a character until immediately after the healer goes or Runic is consumed etc. I'll think about it.
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27 May 2016 - 11:05 AM
I would personally like lower cost defend so it isn't so frustrating to setup move combos like reflect->spell or mimic. One of my favorite things going from FF5 to FF6 was that I DIDN'T have to defend to use another character.
I'd hate to put you in a hard spot over this though. I've enjoyed CTB so far.
I'd hate to put you in a hard spot over this though. I've enjoyed CTB so far.
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27 May 2016 - 04:05 PM
How difficult would it be to give Defend a variable ATB cost based on when the next entity's turn comes up?
Basically have Defend set the character's ATB to next highest ATB - 1. Would probably require a comparison to the other ATB values, which can be kind of bloated and a hassle.
Basically have Defend set the character's ATB to next highest ATB - 1. Would probably require a comparison to the other ATB values, which can be kind of bloated and a hassle.
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27 May 2016 - 04:26 PM
It would be exactly as difficult as you think it is. Also kinda silly.
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27 May 2016 - 04:57 PM
Just curious, would it be possible to create a second Defend command that shows up with the original when you press right to select it? Or maybe re-purpose the "Row" command. Outside of a few circumstances with enemies who force swap your row, I'm curious how often it gets used.
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27 May 2016 - 06:29 PM
ff6shadow, on 27 May 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:
Just curious, would it be possible to create a second Defend command that shows up with the original when you press right to select it? Or maybe re-purpose the "Row" command. Outside of a few circumstances with enemies who force swap your row, I'm curious how often it gets used.
If you're back-attacked your rows are swapped, and if you don't swap 'em back you could be in trouble.
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27 May 2016 - 06:38 PM
Anyway for the X button functionality to be repurposed? Maybe X becomes what Defend currently is, so that if another character is just a touch behind they can go first. Defend takes on a higher cost, but maybe it also gains an added benefit, like a chance at countering or higher evasion?
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27 May 2016 - 06:41 PM
I'm not super happy with retooling the X button for a variety of reasons, mostly the me being a fumblefingers one.
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27 May 2016 - 06:42 PM
True, I hadn't considered back attacks when I thought of that. Though I admit I usuallt just brute force back attacks rather then waste time, but it could be an issue with certain challenges/team setups. Finding away to assigned a short delay to X and a real defend to Defend that takes more time sounds like an idea if it can be done easily
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28 May 2016 - 11:58 AM
I'm not sure about "easily" but if the X can be retooled to fit it's originally intended function within the new system that would be amazing.
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28 May 2016 - 12:45 PM
Well, its original intended function was to let you switch between party members that have turns ready. It does that admirably still.
