Insane Difficulty: Builds Reference Text - Insane Difficulty

thzfunnymzn, on 29 January 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

He's still a healer in this capacity, right? "Cleric" would perhaps do the job, since D&D has caused it to be traditionally associated with heavy armor.

Hmm...I mostly try and use Final Fantasy-isms. "Cleric" might not say "Heavy Armor Healer" to some people. BNW was my first big introduction to a bulky healer. D&D having Heavy Armor Healers still kinda blows my mind.

Siren Celes as "Magic General" might be a D&D-ism though.

The only tanky mages I can think of from Final Fantasy lore are Golbez and Exdeath, neither of which had much in the way of healing magic. The closest thing to a bulky healer FF has had are paladins, which didn't really fit with Setzer.

I'd have to agree on cleric, if for no other reason than I can't think of anything else.

thzfunnymzn, on 29 January 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

A good D&Dism here could be swordmage, though they leaned more toward tanking.

Synchysi, on 29 January 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

Looking it up briefly, Swordmage basically looks like a tanky Red Mage. Which would fit Celes' Red Mage build. It is more descriptive then Red Mage & Final Fantasy started as basically "D&D in video game form". But I'm not sure I want to switch to D&Disms. I don't know D&D very well; if I use D&Disms, I'm going to want to go all-in with the D&Disms; and I'm not sure how many of our players know D&D nomenclature vs. Final Fantasy nomenclature.

Hnn...I have both HP Setzer and mag Setzer listed as White Mage / Cleric. Might be a mistake on my part to list them as two separate builds. Ehh...I'll use "The Bank" and "White Mage" for those two builds, unless I merge them into "White Mage". Again, ya'lls suggestion does make sense, but as stated above, I don't want to go into D&Disms if at all possible.

...>_>...I feel bad for basically turning down ya'lls suggestion. I am grateful for your help. <_<

For the record, as somebody who doesn't play D&D, I find the term "Cleric" abundantly clear.

Very well. Updated.

* Celes re-organized. Two builds (vig, mag), with three sub-builds a piece. Phantom is rightfully the Dark Knight again. Crusader is listed as Regen Mage.
* mag Setzer is listed as "Cleric". HP Setzer is simply "The Bank".
* Ramuh Celes is noted as "defense" whilst Bismark Terra is noted as "offensive."

"The Bank" is probably the greatest build name ever. I used it on my playthrough just because the name was so epic.

That said, I'd like to see some iconic titles like archmage or assassin used in some form; instantly recognizable and cool. I think it can even add some thematic immersion to the builds for some players who enjoy shaping a character into a strong archetype. I know it adds to my enjoyment of the game, perceiving characters in a different way in my mind when using different builds. The bank Setzer is a different sort of guy than the brash, lavish $$$ throwing Setzer whom I dubbed The Joker. Then again, I might be having way too much fun with the roleplaying, haha..

I could review build names again...again. >_> I'm no good with coming up with cool names.

I guess Archmage would go to mag Terra and Assassin to Shadow?

Hmm, might as well take a little dip in the thinktank myself while we're at it and offer some ideas. As for assassin, I suppose there aren' that many candidates for it other than shadow or locke, and the latter lines up more with rogue anyways. Sooo.. does white assassin hold any water? Maybe that's silly, but it might be cool to allude to the duality of the build's capabilities.

Terra could be the most logical choice for archmage seeing as strago as a blue mage is a no-brainer and calling a little girl an archmage is just lol. One idea is to go more in-depth and use more distinctive terms for the ladies such as the oracle, seeress, enchantress etc. or is that going into needless detail/redundant? A female mage with an emphasis on healing/support-y magic seems like a perfect fit for the oracle though, and so on.

Eh....female mage with emphasis on support is how I would peg WoB mag Terra or Siren Celes. By the WoR, mag Terra's got some strong elemental attacks so Archmage fits better. Don't really see "Oracle" or "Seer" fitting Celes either.