Insane Difficulty: Mini-Contest Idea - Insane Difficulty

Surely the best solution... too bad i've not enough time to do it

Alright, let's get this rolling!

Here's the save: http://www.2shared.c...ce...n_FF6.html

Your task is pretty simple this time around. You will simply be killing the Ice Dragon. Not too hard, right? You're even level 40, quite a decent level, probably what some casual players would be when fighting the final boss. Yes, it should be a simple straightfor-Hey wait, have you looked in your item inventory lately?

Yes, Sabin has finally gotten tired of carrying around the absurd amount of weight in your anti-matter bag, and hocked it to the nearest vendor for 30 000 GP when the others weren't looking. You can't blame him. It's almost as heavy as a train or a house! All you have left were the things Celes and Edgar were carrying. Don't even bother thinking Setzer was carrying any of it.

Nothing in the WoR has been touched (even the things which any rational player would grab, like the Man Eater in Darill's Tomb), save a couple things. The Thunder Shield in Mt. Zozo, the Striker has been acquired, and the Sr. Behemoth has been killed. Getting Cyan and Shadow will be much faster than otherwise expected due to this, if getting to them happens to be part of your plan. Use your 30 000 GP wisely. Sabin put a lot of effort into haggling it up from 25 000 GP.

BTW, Joker Doom and Vanish/Doom are perma-banned, unless I explicitly allow them. And I don't see why I would. But maybe I'll have a reason at some point...

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The issue is that I want these tasks to be things with some depth to them, some options that can be explored more fully by people who have played the game. Maybe not necessarily in a hardcore way, but just to have enough familiarity to open up options. That's why I just want to use one game that I know a lot of people who have played and might be interested in. Probably the biggest games that I know people would be interested in are FF6 and FFT. I haven't played one of those games myself, and you get no points for guessing which one.

Lockirby2, on 16 June 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

You haven't played FF6? What a loser.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the others were like me in that we'd be more inclined to take up the mantle if it were something besides FFT. FFT is the horse that has been beaten so hard its corpse is nothing but ash at this point. Something.. different.

I agree. I totally missed the ID Rage thingy, and I've been waiting for something like that to happen again. But having no experience in FFVI, I'll have to pass.

The good thing about that ID Rage thing, was that the idea resorted on having both players that had played the games before, and players who hadn't. But this thread seems targetted to FFVI vets.

Speaking of which i've just accomplished the goal(despite i declared the opposite before XD)
I was curious enough to give a quick shot(maybe not so quick... about 1 hour).

double post, sorry.

This post has been edited by BunkJuggs: 16 June 2014 - 10:01 PM

I really like the idea of a challenge like this. I'd be looking for something more specific, myself. I posted about it on the thread titled about BNW reaching it's anniversary. Something starting in the WoR from Celes stranded on the shore with a limited hero selection. From there, a sort of speed run judged qualitatively more than quantitatively. I'd love to hear what people think about that and, if this gains traction, will participate.

....or we could take up the reigns for Crystalline Echoes and do a wide LP of it, for a big step forward on that project. Just a thought, in the spirit of what Advent said and projects that could get some help. Maybe something with Dancing Mad in mind if people want to keep FF6 in the mix.

BunkJuggs, on 16 June 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

I don't know if you shown interest in this contest or not, but you should

Hey Lockirby2, how 'bout evade patch your contest quick challenges? that should make BunkJuggs partecipate too! XD

Sorry, I was being hasty last night and forgot important details

First of all, in that save, the airship is at the south end of the continent. It would be rather irritating to search for it.

Second, the time starts when you load the save that I gave you, but saving/dying/auto-reloading in the middle is allowed. However, don't forget that all this time is on the clock, so dying isn't free.

Don't worry, this isn't even close to over; it just started. You have until the 16th that month (and if I don't have time that day to do things related to this, possibly even a day or two longer).

Will say other things when I have time.

Lockirby2, on 17 June 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

Probably the airship made we waste half of the time i used for the first attempt XD

So I am starting to get the feeling that I used ambiguous wording and misrepresented the challenge.

I haven't had the time over the last couple days to double-check my posts for clarity, so this is my mistake.

To hopefully make it more clear:

-The time starts at the moment when you load the save.
-The time ends when you finish the task (in this case, defeating the Ice Dragon)
-The goal is not to upload your video on an earlier date than everybody else.
-A video uploaded today with a time of 50 minutes (as timed above) will lose to a video uploaded tomorrow with a time of 30 minutes.
-Therefore, the entire period from save load to task complete must be recorded for timing, and it's all important.
-However, this means that there is no pressure to get this done today.
-You have a full month, so you can fit this in where it can be in your schedule.
-Or you can use that time to optimize your route if you have plenty of time.
-I will be hopefully upload a video showing the top four contenders on the same screen, to compare the routes and have a fun results video.

So hopefully if some of you were worried about this being too slow, this will help to clarify.

I should have made a post like this one to begin with, but hindsight is 20/20.

BunkJuggs, on 16 June 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

Crystalline Echoes is on an indefinite hiatus for a very good reason, one that has more to do with the game's code and less to do with Stann himself.

Advent, on 17 June 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

My shining white knight. <3

If I crammed some ASM, I'm sure I could figure it out. But... eh...

I just want to put out a reminder that there is about one week left to participate in this. If you have recorded anything, please show it to me soon if possible via an Unlisted YouTube video or Mediafire, etc. Please don't make any videos public until I have released the results video, just make sure the videos are given to me privately, otherwise you might spoil the fun. After I release the video, feel free to do whatever.

Thunin, you expressed interest in participating, are you still planning on making a submission?

Have fun!

The results video is now up here:



The next task will probably be out in a few days.

OWNED!!!

Edrin is a skilled player, but he is also a good FF6 hacker, take a look at what he created, recently:
https://www.youtube....h?v=lsZxRBe5Q04

Good Morning Sabin!
Alright, the second challenge!

NOTE1: You may notice a whole lot of Chrono Trigger References in the description. Don't worry, it's all thematic, and having played Chrono Trigger will not help at all, nor are there spoilers.

NOTE2: You may also notice in the save that the character are very similar to the characters for a Low Level Natural Magic Game. Don't worry if you don't have LLG experience, as it should be far from necessary.

Now with that out of the way...

Sabin has been feeling a bit disillusioned lately. As you may know, Chrono Trigger and FF6 were two of the biggest games on the SNES, and people often have disagreements about which is better. Unfortunately, Sabin is a Chrono Trigger fan, and he is upset that he didn't get to be in his favorite game of all time. So Cyan, his best buddy, decided to throw Sabin a personal Millennial Fair to cheer him up.

1: If you've played Chrono Trigger yourself, you'll remember some of the classic things to do at the fair. You may remember that bell that you had to hit to earn Silver Points. It was a competition of strength, and what better way is there to show strength than to Suplex the crud out of things? One part of this task will involve defeating an enemy encounter (yes, any encounter), dealing damage only with the Suplex skill. That's pretty straightforward, right? Well, you don't know Suplex yet, so that needs to happen first at least.

2: Oh, and you may remember the drinking contest (it was soda, not alcohol, don't jump to conclusions!) that happened at the fair. The maximum number of sodas that you could drink was eight. Therefore, one part of this task will involve using eight Items from the following list of Items that I consider drinkable:

Antidote, Ether, Elixir, Hi-Ether, Eye Drops (eww...), Potion, Tonic, Revivify, Megalixir (it counts as four, to make venturing through hours of gameplay to get one worthwhile), Remedy, X-Potion, X-Ether.

This must be done in battle. Quaffing stuff in the menu doesn't help you.

3: Chrono Trigger veterans may also recall being able to bet on the races. There were four participants:



(No, the soldier isn't a giant, that's just how it came out).

There's a cat, a soldier, a lizard, and a guard here. Find an enemy that looks like any one of them. I understand that this is a tad subjective, so PM me if you're not sure if it counts. And what's a good analogy to betting? Throwing money away! So defeat an encounter containing this enemy by dealing damage only with Gil Toss. You may notice that you don't have the Coin Toss Relic, so you may want to amend that at some point... For those of you who don't remember where it is, it's the bottom left chest in the bridge/lava maze in the Cave to the Sealed Gate.

4: And of course, who can forget Gato, Luca's training robot that you can defeat for 15 silver points and some epic lyrics that would make Nattak jealous! I think it should be clear what you have to do here. Defeat an encounter containing any robotic opponent, and you have completed this part of the objective. I understand that the only robotic opponents for this part of the game are on the Veldt (well, excluding Guardian, but Joker Doom is still banned), so I'll make the assumption that any enemy from the Magitek Facility is part Cyborg, so they count too. You still can't find them anywhere except the Veldt, but you'll find something in every Veldt cycle at least.

The parts of the task can be done in any order you want, so feel free to mix and match.

Other than the usual bans, running from encounters is also banned. Otherwise there wouldn't be much to do here. Smile

This may seem like a lot of stuff that you have to do, but this challenge should be hardly longer than the last one.

Give it your all and show Sabin why FF6 is cool!

https://www.mediafir...usbxz7gp37hjlua

Also, Kjata, how far are you into the game?

Some clarifications of the instructions that came up:

The drinks don't have to be used by Sabin. Part 2 is distinct from part 1.

For the Gil Tossing, you only need to find and defeat a battle with one of these participants. You don't need to defeat all four of them.

Pipsqueak does not count as a Soldier or a Guard. Just FYI, if you ask me about a valid enemy in a PM, I won't broadcast anything here, because I don't want to violate privacy and let people copy your working ideas. However, if you ask me about an invalid enemy in a PM, I will broadcast it here to make sure that nobody else makes the same mistake and wastes time submitting an illegal run.

I also just want to re-iterate that the entire encounter, and not just the enemy in question must be killed with Gil Toss.

Lockirby2, on 26 July 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I got bored and gave up right after getting Relm.