SuperHario, on 15 December 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:
He's a mafioso consigliere.
Wait what?
All this brain storming sounds to me like you're coming up with ideas for your own mod.
2.0 Idea? Maybe?
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15 December 2016 - 10:49 PM
Wait what?
All this brain storming sounds to me like you're coming up with ideas for your own mod.
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16 December 2016 - 09:08 AM
SuperHario, on 15 December 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:
That would actually be a sweet relic for Gogo, one that let him Summon any esper but at double the MP cost.
I doubt this would pose any non-trivial coding challenges.
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19 December 2016 - 09:56 PM
Cyan is the "retainer" for the king of Doma; you keep a lawyer on 'retainer', coincidence?
Maybe for Gogo fight, it's colosseum style, but you have to hope the fight lasts for 3 rounds, with neither side dying. Only then does he join your group, saying that you're strong enough to fight, and smart enough to recognize an ally (meaning not kill him either). If you kill him, he lies responseless on the ground and you have to leave the cave to revive him.
Realm with a Brush and a Hyperwrist going in would be a good choice. Sketch still works when berserk, though, and Sketching Gogo summons random Espers, too.
Maybe for Gogo fight, it's colosseum style, but you have to hope the fight lasts for 3 rounds, with neither side dying. Only then does he join your group, saying that you're strong enough to fight, and smart enough to recognize an ally (meaning not kill him either). If you kill him, he lies responseless on the ground and you have to leave the cave to revive him.
Realm with a Brush and a Hyperwrist going in would be a good choice. Sketch still works when berserk, though, and Sketching Gogo summons random Espers, too.
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20 December 2016 - 04:22 AM
SuperHario, on 19 December 2016 - 09:56 PM, said:
Cyan is the "retainer" for the king of Doma; you keep a lawyer on 'retainer', coincidence?
Maybe for Gogo fight, it's colosseum style, but you have to hope the fight lasts for 3 rounds, with neither side dying. Only then does he join your group, saying that you're strong enough to fight, and smart enough to recognize an ally (meaning not kill him either). If you kill him, he lies responseless on the ground and you have to leave the cave to revive him.
Realm with a Brush and a Hyperwrist going in would be a good choice. Sketch still works when berserk, though, and Sketching Gogo summons random Espers, too.
Maybe for Gogo fight, it's colosseum style, but you have to hope the fight lasts for 3 rounds, with neither side dying. Only then does he join your group, saying that you're strong enough to fight, and smart enough to recognize an ally (meaning not kill him either). If you kill him, he lies responseless on the ground and you have to leave the cave to revive him.
Realm with a Brush and a Hyperwrist going in would be a good choice. Sketch still works when berserk, though, and Sketching Gogo summons random Espers, too.
This is probably the dumbest set of ideas to go into a single post.
1. Cyan is a lawyer?
2. Gogo as a Colosseum fight's dumb, the Colosseum fights in general are dumb and are planned to be axed to be replaced with something better asap.
3. Adding "Don't kill him" to a Colosseum fight is even worse RNG playing.
The only idea of yours that really held any water was the "generic anti-magic shields" one and you went and ruined it with more silly complexities. And even then, generic anti-magic shields aren't needed in any way.
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20 December 2016 - 05:02 AM
No, he's clearly a lawyer now. A lawyer with inconsistent skin color.
#47
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20 December 2016 - 09:21 AM
Nowea, on 20 December 2016 - 04:22 AM, said:
This is probably the dumbest set of ideas to go into a single post.
Have you forgotten BunkJuggs?
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20 December 2016 - 09:39 AM
Nowea wasn't around for BJ's time.
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13 March 2017 - 01:19 PM
2.0 idears/wishes:
* Give Bone Club the counter property.
* Allow Umaro to start with a Skull Cap.
* Undead Equality: Somehow get the Poison status to function as a Regen while characters undead, get magic evasion to work against offensive Holy spells; allow Poison spells to bypass magic defense/evasion when functioning as heals; change Doom from a health restore to a resurrection ability when used on slain undead.
* Back to the drawing board: Rework Sketch to instead create an uncontrollable 5th party member in the form of the sketched enemy who gets "erased" in one hit...
* ...or just make a Relm-exclusive relic that changes Sketch to Summon, allowing her to Summon espers you have collected.
* A couple more Lores? I actually miss Strago having Rock.
* Give Bone Club the counter property.
* Allow Umaro to start with a Skull Cap.
* Undead Equality: Somehow get the Poison status to function as a Regen while characters undead, get magic evasion to work against offensive Holy spells; allow Poison spells to bypass magic defense/evasion when functioning as heals; change Doom from a health restore to a resurrection ability when used on slain undead.
* Back to the drawing board: Rework Sketch to instead create an uncontrollable 5th party member in the form of the sketched enemy who gets "erased" in one hit...
* ...or just make a Relm-exclusive relic that changes Sketch to Summon, allowing her to Summon espers you have collected.
* A couple more Lores? I actually miss Strago having Rock.
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13 March 2017 - 02:03 PM
Brave New Earl, on 13 March 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:
* ...or just make a Relm-exclusive relic that changes Sketch to Summon, allowing her to Summon espers you have collected.
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13 March 2017 - 02:07 PM
A spammable summon would be *very* broken, so it would have to respect the once-per-battle limit.
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13 March 2017 - 02:13 PM
Bauglir, on 13 March 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:
but with the sketch animation right?
BTB, on 13 March 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:
A spammable summon would be *very* broken, so it would have to respect the once-per-battle limit.
Thumbs up to both of these!
Edit: More optional character luv:
* Unleash the beast!: Apply the damage bonus Umaro gains when "throwing" Mog to any party member who gets chucked. Allow special attacks unlocked by the Rage Belt / Blizzard Orb to trigger on counter-attacks.
* Dragalicious: Expand Gogo's wardrobe to include female-specific gear. This just seems right.
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13 March 2017 - 08:25 PM
Having the Mog bonus for all Umaro throws would be quite OP, but maybe it could be applied if Relm, Strago, or Gogo are wearing a Moogle Suit.
A way to Resurrect the Undead would be helpful and the Doom Spell seems like as good a way to do it as any.
A way to Resurrect the Undead would be helpful and the Doom Spell seems like as good a way to do it as any.
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14 March 2017 - 08:25 PM
SuperHario, on 13 March 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:
A way to Resurrect the Undead would be helpful and the Doom Spell seems like as good a way to do it as any.
I'd like to imagine something like the Doom animation, only played in reverse. Or hell, let the Defibrillator reanimate the undead. It's aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive!
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15 March 2017 - 11:16 AM
I'm loving the idea of a relic'd Relm sketching Espers. Maybe to balance it's a random Esper, like 3BARS?
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15 March 2017 - 02:16 PM
The problem is that some espers are *really* abuseable, so you'd just get people rolling and rolling until they get Golem or Ragnarok.
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16 March 2017 - 08:26 PM
BTB, on 15 March 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:
The problem is that some espers are *really* abuseable, so you'd just get people rolling and rolling until they get Golem or Ragnarok.
I'd been giving this some thoughts with regards to balance. If we consider that this Summon command would work with a standard menu of available espers to choose from while still limiting espers to the "once per battle" rule, I feel that either of these two options would help temper it within reason.
1: Omission - call it "artistic integrity" - but if a esper is just too prone to abuse, don't include it in the menu of available espers. Relm is a serious artist and wouldn't just draw the same thing over and over simply because it's popular.
2: Esper hog - if Relm is in the party, and she is using the Summon command, no one in the party can select an esper for use. Just as if it'd already been used.
Thoughts?
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16 March 2017 - 09:41 PM
So, I dunno, here's how I'd do it if I were unconstrained:
At the start of each battle, Relm gets a random list of at most 4 Espers she can summon, each once per battle. An Esper can only appear on the list if the following conditions are met:
1) The player has acquired the relevant Magicite. She needs inspiration, after all!
2) No character has equipped the relevant Magicite. She's not gonna rip anybody off. Depending on balance needs, this may or may not include characters not in the active party, and may or may not include Relm herself.
3) Relm did not paint the relevant Esper in the previous battle. She likes to mix things up.
4) The Esper is not on a short list of abusable Espers (if such a list is necessary). She's got standards.
Just spitballing here.
At the start of each battle, Relm gets a random list of at most 4 Espers she can summon, each once per battle. An Esper can only appear on the list if the following conditions are met:
1) The player has acquired the relevant Magicite. She needs inspiration, after all!
2) No character has equipped the relevant Magicite. She's not gonna rip anybody off. Depending on balance needs, this may or may not include characters not in the active party, and may or may not include Relm herself.
3) Relm did not paint the relevant Esper in the previous battle. She likes to mix things up.
4) The Esper is not on a short list of abusable Espers (if such a list is necessary). She's got standards.
Just spitballing here.
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17 March 2017 - 05:24 PM
Alternatively, pull a FF5 Wonder Wand and have it cast summons in a pre-determined order. Sure you can cast Ragnarok on that boss, but are you willing to sit through every other summon, half of them useless? Give the ability a sufficiently long action time too (Think Jump) and you'd have something potentially flavorful without much chance of being broken. Depending on the first summon chosen, could be useful outside of boss battles too (I was thinking Stray).
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18 March 2017 - 10:17 AM
Does that 'queue' carry over from a random battle into a boss battle such that you can know for sure what your next summon will be? Because if so, the problem persists.
