Luckily, I managed to win against Gorva by spamming the crap out of Byzel darts and axes.
But yeah, the hit rate and evasion seems to fall apart against some of the bosses.
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03 May 2015 - 10:22 PM
Dudejo, on 03 May 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:
EDIT : Seriously, though, there seems to be a big problem with the hit rate and evasion.
Against some of the bosses, the system seems to randomly fall apart and it becomes impossible to hit them.
As far as I can remember, it happened against both Jewel Eater and Gorva. It seems they trigger some sort of invulnerability state that doesn't properly de-activate.
Against some of the bosses, the system seems to randomly fall apart and it becomes impossible to hit them.
As far as I can remember, it happened against both Jewel Eater and Gorva. It seems they trigger some sort of invulnerability state that doesn't properly de-activate.
Those two have some of the higher evasion values - might be related.
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07 May 2015 - 08:43 PM
Thank you so much man. 
I'm glad you decided to do this for us that asked. Wish I had checked back sooner after asking for this, just didn't expect it to happen.
I'm gunna go check this out right now.
I'm glad you decided to do this for us that asked. Wish I had checked back sooner after asking for this, just didn't expect it to happen.
I'm gunna go check this out right now.
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RustyIsBad, on 07 May 2015 - 08:43 PM, said:
Thank you so much man.
I'm glad you decided to do this for us that asked. Wish I had checked back sooner after asking for this, just didn't expect it to happen.
I'm gunna go check this out right now.
I'm glad you decided to do this for us that asked. Wish I had checked back sooner after asking for this, just didn't expect it to happen.
I'm gunna go check this out right now.
Just make sure you keep some save states for some of the bosses, as they seem to break the evasion system. They randomly become impossible to hit.
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10 May 2015 - 08:36 AM
Dudejo, on 08 May 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:
Just make sure you keep some save states for some of the bosses, as they seem to break the evasion system. They randomly become impossible to hit.
Can you tell me which variant of "impossible to hit" occurs?
100% miss?
Not even a miss as "damage pop up", just plain nothing?
Something else?
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Praetarius5018, on 10 May 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:
Can you tell me which variant of "impossible to hit" occurs?
100% miss?
Not even a miss as "damage pop up", just plain nothing?
Something else?
100% miss?
Not even a miss as "damage pop up", just plain nothing?
Something else?
The game returns a "Miss" pop-up whenever I strike the boss. Is it possible that attacking too frequently can cause problems? I was using Hawk.
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Dudejo, on 10 May 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:
The game returns a "Miss" pop-up whenever I strike the boss. Is it possible that attacking too frequently can cause problems? I was using Hawk.
There're auto-misses if the game thinks it just can't handle attacks at all right now, but this should be gone after a second or two. Then there's a "feature" I found only a couple of days ago - against enemies with 32k+ current HP it skips evasion calculation, so if the miss flag is set, you'll keep missing until the enemy drops below the threshold.
And maybe I forgot a minor part of the fix as the relevant stuff is all over the place.
As for Hawk... did you use any form of a cooldown cancel trick? (L/R, auto-attack-toggle, etc.)
Didn't ever test the combination of the fix with that as I shut the easy variation off in the main project.
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Praetarius5018, on 10 May 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:
There're auto-misses if the game thinks it just can't handle attacks at all right now, but this should be gone after a second or two. Then there's a "feature" I found only a couple of days ago - against enemies with 32k+ current HP it skips evasion calculation, so if the miss flag is set, you'll keep missing until the enemy drops below the threshold.
And maybe I forgot a minor part of the fix as the relevant stuff is all over the place.
As for Hawk... did you use any form of a cooldown cancel trick? (L/R, auto-attack-toggle, etc.)
Didn't ever test the combination of the fix with that as I shut the easy variation off in the main project.
And maybe I forgot a minor part of the fix as the relevant stuff is all over the place.
As for Hawk... did you use any form of a cooldown cancel trick? (L/R, auto-attack-toggle, etc.)
Didn't ever test the combination of the fix with that as I shut the easy variation off in the main project.
The forced misses happened even under the HP threshold. When I fought Gorva, he was weak enough to die from a barrage of Item Darts (which aren't particularly powerful even with Hawk's stats).
As for those cooldown cancels, I didn't try to use any of those.
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10 May 2015 - 12:52 PM
try the update
I forgot to fix one of the "if else"-trees, under certain conditions it would skip right past the hit/miss flag updates...
I forgot to fix one of the "if else"-trees, under certain conditions it would skip right past the hit/miss flag updates...
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11 May 2015 - 02:09 PM
I fought Gorva twice in a row using the new patch. I didn't have to restart either fight.
As far as I can tell, everything seems to be in order.
As far as I can tell, everything seems to be in order.
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Don't know if this is a problem with just the fix-only or the whole project. Gladiator, haven't tested the other 2nd classes yet, start with maxed out attributes. The level up works if you press A, but you can't gain attributes.
EDIT: I tested further with my current party, Ninja and Enchantress are exactly the same way.
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13 May 2015 - 08:26 AM
fix only; the main project uses a different handling for the level up caps since I don't put the temporary stat capsevery three levels there
Do you still have a save before that level up?
If so, there's an update that should fix that...
Do you still have a save before that level up?
If so, there's an update that should fix that...
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13 May 2015 - 01:29 PM
Dudejo, on 13 May 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:
The joys of beta-testing .gif)
Who says this patch ever entered the alpha phase
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09 January 2016 - 08:09 PM
Thank you for doing this, especially for other ROM hackers to have a base to build their own hack on later with the bugs fixed.
I was one of the people who requested it, but real life has been crazy, and I haven't checked back in awhile.
I was one of the people who requested it, but real life has been crazy, and I haven't checked back in awhile.
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09 January 2016 - 08:22 PM
Now its time to push my luck even further, if you get the urge to chuck a brick
at me please don't. xD
Is there a chance you can release the running while in combat patch, so
all Seiken Densetsu players can enjoy it?
If I remember correctly, it was the part were you swapped the tech button, and enabled
running while in combat.
Honestly being able to run while in combat might have ended up being
a more awesome patch then even the 3-player hack.
Can running in combat be a patch?
Would I have to send beer or hookers to get this?
*Waits for the apoplectic yelling*
Praetorius: No this my hack! go find yourself a nice bridge to jump off of!
at me please don't. xD
Is there a chance you can release the running while in combat patch, so
all Seiken Densetsu players can enjoy it?
If I remember correctly, it was the part were you swapped the tech button, and enabled
running while in combat.
Honestly being able to run while in combat might have ended up being
a more awesome patch then even the 3-player hack.
Can running in combat be a patch?
Would I have to send beer or hookers to get this?
*Waits for the apoplectic yelling*
Praetorius: No this my hack! go find yourself a nice bridge to jump off of!
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09 January 2016 - 08:40 PM
Praetarius5018, on 13 May 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:
Who says this patch ever entered the alpha phase
Thank you for one of the most awesome Alpha patches I've been waiting
5-10 years for. > : )
I have waited a very long time for this...
Ever since I first played Seiken Densetsu and then found out how much
of it never got finished, was disabled, or just completely bugged.
I'll get a ROM patched and do a bunch of play throughs on it soon when
real life settles down in a bit.
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10 January 2016 - 02:20 AM
at first, I was considering it, then I thought "nah, misspelled my name"
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Running hack is more like compensation of harder difficulty. It's already much easier with AGL/CRI working. Next thing I wanna see is hitting miss on enemies too and add accuracy on monsters. There should be some changes that make the game harder too.
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10 January 2016 - 11:24 PM
Well, that's what the actual hack - and not this side project - is for.
This one is clearly labelled as "fix-only" a.k.a. total melee-fest/easy-mode; judgement on balance here will be withheld - because there's none
This one is clearly labelled as "fix-only" a.k.a. total melee-fest/easy-mode; judgement on balance here will be withheld - because there's none
