Now that I have your attention, no this is not about playing FFT while sitting bare-assed on the Dorito's stained carpet at grandma's house... it is a question about the feasibility of a single class play-through of FFT vanilla (not content or 1.3) with no equipment besides maybe weapons.
Rules:
No monk or mime since they don't really need gear to excel.
Can use items in classes like Samurai and Chemist just not wearing anything.
No overlevelling nor cheap shit like level down/level up.
Only use abilites from the class (so no wizard with half mp, etc.)
My questions are:
How many chars as a minimum would be feasible (I'm thinking this might be possible with 2 or 3 Ramza included, but would appreciate thoughts)? And also, does anyone think it would even be possible without overlevelling to do certain fights? (I'm thinking Weigraf and Gafgarion 2 off hand but others probably will be pretty brutal)
Also, looking for suggestions of fun classes. I could see Wizard and Priest being fun.
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18 June 2014 - 02:00 PM
Any restrictions for monsters in the party?
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18 June 2014 - 02:57 PM
When I read this thread title I thought it would mean playing the game while naked. I am disappoint
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18 June 2014 - 03:25 PM
BunkJuggs, on 18 June 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:
Any restrictions for monsters in the party?
Good point. I'd say only certain monsters, otherwise it would probably devolve into Ramza, Tiamat and Worker8 9 times out of 10. Maybe only allow Goblins, Chocobos and Bombs? Maybe the challenge is then Ramza, a Generic, then one of those three?
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18 June 2014 - 04:39 PM
I like Ramza, generic and chocobo. You can get a mount, group heal (did they have choco esuna in vanilla?), big movement.
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18 June 2014 - 04:59 PM
Hmm... this thread is making me wonder how such a challenge would fare for BNW.
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18 June 2014 - 05:07 PM
BTB, on 18 June 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:
Hmm... this thread is making me wonder how such a challenge would fare for BNW.
In a recording with Truth that got scrapped because of technical difficulties (a freaking hurricane causing a power cut on NY) we were discussing about a no espers challenge. It's not the same, but that would be terrific to watch.
About the thread title, the moment I saw it, I thought "Huh, so I guess everytime I play 1.3 is a challenge".
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19 June 2014 - 05:59 AM
auraplatonic, on 18 June 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:
When I read this thread title I thought it would mean playing the game while naked. I am disappoint
You mean you don't play FFT bare-assed on the Dorito stained carpet at grandma's house? I thought that was pretty standard stuff... you know like being high on Mountain Dew and taking green piss breaks during this nudery...
BunkJuggs, on 18 June 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:
I like Ramza, generic and chocobo. You can get a mount, group heal (did they have choco esuna in vanilla?), big movement.
Yes I like that, but only black Chocobos had Esuna in Vanilla neglecting Monster Skill, so I would assume yellow would be the monster of choice. Though I really think that a Ramza Wizard, Generic Chemist and Bomb has great potential due to Phoenix Down + Bomb Explode and accompanying Oil + Fire 2 and 3; I assume this would probably rape and is what I am thinking about doing at the moment.
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19 June 2014 - 06:01 AM
doing this SCC style? All units of the same class? Or like... one pure priest, one pure wizard, etc? Can you change classes inbetween battles?
Ouch. Um... the mage types will certainly be easiest, because they can round 1 any boss. Elmdor will be a pain, I think. Without gear (or Priest, for MDU?) he'll probably one-shot 4 of your units on his opening (10 speed) act, and the survivor will probably die to Assassin throw.
Since Monk (HP restore, move hp up) is out of the question, I think the only good option for Ramza is Oracle; between Def Up and Life Drain, you should be able to handle either/both Weigraf 3 or Gaffy 3. But with poop for HP, no hats for speed, and no accessories to help you, you will certainly need to clock in some levels
Ouch. Um... the mage types will certainly be easiest, because they can round 1 any boss. Elmdor will be a pain, I think. Without gear (or Priest, for MDU?) he'll probably one-shot 4 of your units on his opening (10 speed) act, and the survivor will probably die to Assassin throw.
Since Monk (HP restore, move hp up) is out of the question, I think the only good option for Ramza is Oracle; between Def Up and Life Drain, you should be able to handle either/both Weigraf 3 or Gaffy 3. But with poop for HP, no hats for speed, and no accessories to help you, you will certainly need to clock in some levels
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19 June 2014 - 06:07 AM
philsov, on 19 June 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:
doing this SCC style? All units of the same class? Or like... one pure priest, one pure wizard, etc? Can you change classes inbetween battles?
Ouch. Um... the mage types will certainly be easiest, because they can round 1 any boss. Elmdor will be a pain, I think. Without gear (or Priest, for MDU?) he'll probably one-shot 4 of your units on his opening (10 speed) act, and the survivor will probably die to Assassin throw.
Since Monk (HP restore, move hp up) is out of the question, I think the only good option for Ramza is Oracle; between Def Up and Life Drain, you should be able to handle either/both Weigraf 3 or Gaffy 3. But with poop for HP, no hats for speed, and no accessories to help you, you will certainly need to clock in some levels
Ouch. Um... the mage types will certainly be easiest, because they can round 1 any boss. Elmdor will be a pain, I think. Without gear (or Priest, for MDU?) he'll probably one-shot 4 of your units on his opening (10 speed) act, and the survivor will probably die to Assassin throw.
Since Monk (HP restore, move hp up) is out of the question, I think the only good option for Ramza is Oracle; between Def Up and Life Drain, you should be able to handle either/both Weigraf 3 or Gaffy 3. But with poop for HP, no hats for speed, and no accessories to help you, you will certainly need to clock in some levels
Yeah I wanted to do pure classes not all same class. And thinking about it, I feel like I might want to allow accessories just so certain fights won't be a pain.
But yes the Elmdor fight also sounds bad, but when I said "no overlevelling" I meant not getting to 99 in act 1. I think some bit of levelling would be required for this to work with certain fights.
And yes I would say being able to change jobs between fights should be allowed somewhat to get around the limitations it will have for those fights, just only allowing in job abilities and limiting to 3 units, if that is possible. I am fairly certain a full Ramza + 2 generics + 2 monster could easily do this challenge naked so I wanted to reduce that for the lulz.
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19 June 2014 - 08:07 AM
3 units is a good starting point, then. You may need to import a 4th, but no reason to preempt yourself.
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19 June 2014 - 08:17 AM
elchupateta, on 19 June 2014 - 06:07 AM, said:
And thinking about it, I feel like I might want to allow accessories just so certain fights won't be a pain.
I was thinking this. Zodiac beasts would be extremely hard because of statuses. Queklain, Velius and Zalera particularly because of seal, break, and nightmare.
And the title made me think of Ramza streaking around ivalice.
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19 June 2014 - 12:49 PM
Hack Fan, on 19 June 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:
I was thinking this. Zodiac beasts would be extremely hard because of statuses. Queklain, Velius and Zalera particularly because of seal, break, and nightmare.
And the title made me think of Ramza streaking around ivalice.
And the title made me think of Ramza streaking around ivalice.
Ramza's innocence and general naivety would then not only be figurative but literal as well.
And yes, I agree that those fights would be horrid without accessories so I am thinking Weapons + Accessories are allowed, but no shields, helms, or armors.
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3 units is a good starting point, then. You may need to import a 4th, but no reason to preempt yourself.
Agreed. Might just keep a separate unit that I level solely in randoms for the purpose of using if I get stuck.
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18 July 2014 - 08:35 PM
I'm gonna have to reverse my vote. Not-So-Sophisticated Spam Bot is pretty lame now.
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Advent, on 18 July 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:
I'm gonna have to reverse my vote. Not-So-Sophisticated Spam Bot is pretty lame now.
That's just what he wants you to believe...
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14 December 2014 - 02:06 AM
Ok I see this is KIND of an old thread, but i saw it, and i JUST became a Let's Player, and i absolutely HAVE to try this XD I'm so gonna do a lets play on this now 
ty for an idea ^^ and hey, if noone else has done it i could be a sort of scape goat test subject that is if u don't mind :3
ty for an idea ^^ and hey, if noone else has done it i could be a sort of scape goat test subject that is if u don't mind :3
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14 December 2014 - 02:47 AM
Go for it. I haven't seen Elchupotato in a while anyway.
Welcome to ID. For future reference, if you are worried about something like this in the future, just do it. Nobody here will care. If they DO care, they will ask you to nicely to please don't steal their thunder. If they are a dick about it, then ignore them, and everyone else will have your back.
Basically, do whatever you want without being a dick, and you'll be fine.
Edit: I remember this thread from my hawaii vacation. I vividly remember sitting on the condos deck, smoking, listening to the waves, and reading this thread. Man, I wish i was in hawaii right now instead of seattle where the weather is either "butt fuck cold" or "raining and 60F"
Welcome to ID. For future reference, if you are worried about something like this in the future, just do it. Nobody here will care. If they DO care, they will ask you to nicely to please don't steal their thunder. If they are a dick about it, then ignore them, and everyone else will have your back.
Basically, do whatever you want without being a dick, and you'll be fine.
Edit: I remember this thread from my hawaii vacation. I vividly remember sitting on the condos deck, smoking, listening to the waves, and reading this thread. Man, I wish i was in hawaii right now instead of seattle where the weather is either "butt fuck cold" or "raining and 60F"
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14 December 2014 - 04:08 AM
hahah k thx for the tip and ty for the warm welcome :3 i just love a challenge and at first i was just gonna do solo archer cuz archer is like my fave class evar XD but i didnt wanna steal it from archael see one thing is this: i plan to do about 15 or maybe more different runs with fft all mostly challenge runs AND half of em are gonna be 1.3 XD so yeah im gonna have a fun time :3 lolz
Edit: would shields also be allowed? he only said weapons and accessories but he didnt even mention the offhand XD so now im confuzzled about that
Edit 2: Hardest run of this ever: ninja XD from what i hear their natural hp never break 200 >w> and from watching archael play ive seen dodging doesnt work too well even at SUPER high lvls of evasion XD
see one thing is this: i plan to do about 15 or maybe more different runs with fft all mostly challenge runs AND half of em are gonna be 1.3 XD so yeah im gonna have a fun time :3 lolzEdit: would shields also be allowed? he only said weapons and accessories but he didnt even mention the offhand XD so now im confuzzled about that
Edit 2: Hardest run of this ever: ninja XD from what i hear their natural hp never break 200 >w> and from watching archael play ive seen dodging doesnt work too well even at SUPER high lvls of evasion XD
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14 December 2014 - 08:18 AM
That's... a lot of FFT runs. And challenges on 1.3? Cool, we'd like to hear what you do with that. Have you played 1.3 before? Honestly, I could never bear the thought of playing through vanilla with arbitrary restrictions to make the game hard when 1.3 manages to do that without ruining the fun factor.
As for your question: Shields may or may not be allowed. That's your decision. If you want to ban shields, go for it. If not, you're the one doing the challenge and nobody will have a problem with it.
As for your question: Shields may or may not be allowed. That's your decision. If you want to ban shields, go for it. If not, you're the one doing the challenge and nobody will have a problem with it.
