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BTB what changes this new version 1.8.5 some things or major things also Love your mod and the new mechanic EL is good too what plans do you have for the colloseum?

I might sound silly and perhaps missing something but as part of the script updates could we have a NPC in South Figaro during Locke's scenario giving at least a hint about the password to access the rich man's mansion? Although we all know the answer by now I always find that part to be cryptic and trial and error based, since as far as I know nobody gives any clues as to what the secret word might be.

Dude you a tottaly right it might be a big update

CoreyTaylor, on 21 March 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Yeah, you are missing something. There's a way to get someone to tell you the password. It's a short quest that hasn't been meaningfully changed from vanilla.

Disregard, I suck cocks

Bauglir, on 21 March 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

The quest is not giving cider to the old man, right? Because in BNW he only says something along the lines of "give my grandson the password" without any additional info.

CoreyTaylor, on 21 March 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

My memory sucks, sorry

Just as with vanilla, nobody tells you the password for South Figaro - you have to guess (or just remember the position, since that's unchanged). It was a deliberate dick move on the developers' part that even the Nintendo Power players' guide called them out on.

Clearly the joke needs to be completed by having the old man give you a fish with an iron sword stuck in it for getting him the cider, and the old man would just say "Here's the password."

https://www.youtube....ec8WrEQQ&t=2m4s

BTB, on 21 March 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

I see, interesting. So now I get why Locke replies with "yeah, the password...". I was just hoping BNW could "fix" that somehow.

There's really nothing to fix. If you played vanilla you'll likely remember the position. If you don't, you don't really lose anything for guessing wrong. Blame Square for being silly.

Eh, it's good form to give a hint. It should just be re-writing a line or two and updating the script. Wasn't the script receiving some other minor updates anyways?

i think so too

So I just went through Owzer's Mansion and fought some Dahlings. I used Palidor with Edgar to check out the damage. Everyone jumped up and avoided a bunch of attacks, except for Edgar, who somehow got hit with Restless and fell asleep while in the air. Even after everyone else had come down, he was still floating off somewhere, taking a nap. This went on for a while until a magic sheep flew by to wake him up and he suddenly came back down without doing any damage. Also, he was now invisible, because why not. Definitely the weirdest thing to have happened to me in this hack so far.

Here are some screenshots if you've ever been interested in what it looks like when an invisible man uses a drill.

Invisible Edgar doing nothing and Invisible Edgar using a Drill.

SirBlackMage, on 23 March 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

Outstanding

So, brainstorming some build options with the new HP+50% Gungnir:

For Edgar, I believe his Golem/Palidod build won't break. He's bulky enough for a Hero Ring to be fine. I think I'd rather take a vig+ / spd+ sword with him. A pure Palidor or hybrid Palidor/Siren build may very well prefer the new Gungnir though. I know I would've liked an HP+50% spear my last game, where I ran Palidor + Siren.

For mag Edgar, I'm guessing it'd be useful if one forgoes any Unicorn ELs. Don't really know for certain, not a big mag Edgar user. I doubt it'll break him, but someone else can chime in if they think otherwise.

Mogoon should easily hit 2k HP with this spear and a handful of Terrato ELs. Scary. Loses some dps, but Mogoon's got strong dps anyways. If I remember my numbers rightly, Mogoon's bulk/dps should be very similar to vig Sabin/Cyan, just with his usual high speed for Item tossing. Probably not broken, but certainly a scary good alternative to pure power.

For mag Mog, Gungnir/ForceArmor pretty much invalidates Punisher/SnowMuffler, unless you want Wind immunity or your swinging the Punisher. (Also holds true for any vig Mog that swings Punisher). Doesn't strike me as a good change. Snow Muffler's a hard enough sell on Mog as is.

What's the ETA on 1.8.5? Maybe worth it to wait it out before starting a new playthrough?

I wanted to have it done a few weeks ago, but clearly that didn't happen.

So a good ol' "when finished"-type of ETA? Really itching to try this again but seems inauspicious when another update is at the door.

Hapanpappa, now you know how I feel almost every time a new update comes out. : )