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#1 Not-Jay

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26 October 2014 - 08:26 PM

I was wondering if there were Job Tree changes from this guide (http://www.insanedif...le=1.3_Generics)
I already had Level 3 Knight but the Monk is still not available. The same goes for White Mage (but Black Mage and Time Mage are now available)

#2 black

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26 October 2014 - 08:50 PM

I suggest getting FFTPatcher, it will help you see stat growth, job requirements, where and what items can be acquired through move-find and a lot more useful information. Quite a lot has been changed in the port, as far as I can tell, and the guides listed here are largely not helpful.

#3 Not-Jay

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26 October 2014 - 08:58 PM

I see...
Thank you, I'll look into that

#4 Ludovician

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26 October 2014 - 09:37 PM

Yeah, the job trees are a bit different in this. I drew up a chart a while ago but there are inaccuracies in it.

Keep in mind that it's not 100% accurate:

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#5 Not-Jay

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27 October 2014 - 06:52 AM

Just for clarification, the Monk requires Squire, Marksman and Knight to be level 3?
And mime, onion knight and dark knight are more or less the same from the one in the guide right?

#6 Archael

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27 October 2014 - 08:47 AM

Man, I really have to update those images on the guide to fit the page

#7 Ludovician

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27 October 2014 - 08:50 AM

Not-Jay, on 27 October 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

Just for clarification, the Monk requires Squire, Marksman and Knight to be level 3?

Yes

Not-Jay, on 27 October 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

And mime, onion knight and dark knight are more or less the same from the one in the guide right?

I think so, but I believe the requirement for DK has been dropped to level 5. I'm not sure of exactly which jobs you need to get to level 5 so I recommend checking the patcher as it's fairly counter-intuitive. The patch notes say "all PA-based jobs" but I know for a fact it requires Chemist and I think it still requires Wizard. I don't really know about the OK requirements.

#8 DrBretto

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27 October 2014 - 01:48 PM

DK job's master wizard and knight requirements are hard-coded into the job and can't be fixed without legitimate hacking. However, yes, in the last broken release, the chemist job was incorrectly required. I am fixing up a cleaner copy of what I left off with while we wait for Kyozo, I will upload it when I finish cleaning it all up.

#9 Kjata

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27 October 2014 - 03:55 PM

Archael, on 27 October 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

Man, I really have to update those images on the guide to fit the page

I'd just take the out of date ones down, tbh. I think the guides actually hurt, causing confusion.

#10 Advent

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27 October 2014 - 04:12 PM

Kjata, on 27 October 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

I'd just take the out of date ones down, tbh. I think the guides actually hurt, causing confusion.

I'd put it in big, bold, red fucking letters "THIS IS OUT OF DATE AS OF <patch number>".

#11 Kjata

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27 October 2014 - 04:59 PM

Advent, on 27 October 2014 - 04:12 PM, said:

I'd put it in big, bold, red fucking letters "THIS IS OUT OF DATE AS OF <patch number>".

And then include a link to FTPatcher.

#12 Ludovician

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27 October 2014 - 05:00 PM

I don't know why some people prefer the website guide to FFTPatcher. Patcher has everything.

#13 Advent

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27 October 2014 - 05:14 PM

Ludovician, on 27 October 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I don't know why some people prefer the website guide to FFTPatcher. Patcher has everything.

If I know that the guide has what I'm looking for, it's faster for one.

#14 Stann

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27 October 2014 - 05:17 PM

I prefer a well designed guide with easy to access visual information. Patcher is good if you're looking for obscure or in-depth information, but a nice visual guide is good when you want something simple.