Insane Difficulty: My thoughts on Fallen Star so far - Insane Difficulty

Vanish Mantle, on 13 July 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

I'll probably grind a little at least. And I'll definitely need to mess around with good class setups and equipment because he could basically one shot my guys.

I faced off against the Tempest Lizard with everyone at level 23. When I won I recieved enough experience to bump them all to level 28!

Keep in mind this is the only boss in the game that is really weak to things such Curse, Death, Poison, ETC.

Okay, now I'm getting annoyed. Grinded up to 35 and go to take on saturos and menardi again. Sure they're easy enough. But saturos just sits there and defends and heals himself for 3000 so it just takes a pointless amount of time to finish him off. Then It goes to the fusion dragon fight when mia is dead and garet is at 200 health. Fusion dragon kills Garet and Ivan instantly then next turn kills isaac before he can do anything. What luck. Now I have to fight saturos and menardi for another 20-30 minutes.

And even through my complaining I beat the fusion drag on my third try. It seemed like he didn't have that much health since once I get in the swing of things he went down fairly quickly. But besides dying quickly it was still a pretty good last boss.

I guess I'll do a really lazy write up of my thoughts of the game now that I've beaten it.

Overall, I liked the mod, though I did have a couple problems with it. The beginning of the game was really hard, but then every boss up from tret to the last fight with saturos and menardi was pretty underwhelming, at least in my experience with the game. The items that you could equip that give you synergy are pretty cool, but the synergy they give you are so powerful that it invalidates a lot of the skills you learn naturally, which isn't necessarily that big of a problem, but when you get, say, basilisk shield pretty early and learn terra wraith it basically makes most of isaacs other damage spells pretty pointless, along with making class switching not matter that much since chances are whatever class you go into will not give you as good of psynergy as your equips. And it does have a high pp cost to compensate, but it is very easy to get gear that gives you enough pp regen to make it negligible. And I'm just gonna clarify I'm not strictly complaining about equips that give synergy because a lot of the psynergy you learned from them had really cool effects and very much added to the gameplay.

It also seemed that the water djinn were very underpowered. I almost never used them besides setting up a powerful summon, whereas earth, fire and wind all had some very powerful effects on a few. Like damage mitigation, decently damaging attacks, taking two actions, blocking psynergy or . The best of the water djinn were like, lowering their defense for a second.

But Vanish Mantle, I see you are redoing FS and it sounds like the way you are doing it will improve a lot of my criticism so I'm excited to see how that goes.

Estus, on 15 July 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Thank you very much! Glad you got to finish it. I hope you got the chance to try out crossbone isle and yes a lot of the skills can make other's pointless if you are going for raw damage though I have found players will go with what they feel is best for them. I personally never touched the Basilisk Shield and used Ragnarok which imo is better and cheaper or even Isaac's Fallen Star skill. Keep in mind most of these skills are Attack dependent so they are pointless on high damage enemies. Also another thing I would like to point out is that level difference can make a world of difference in this mod. I can't force the bosses to scale with you and you will see in RS that having a fixed level will really make bosses a challenge. I would wait a bit before moving on to RS and try hitting 50 and take on Xbone isle and Lunpa (if you already haven't). Either way let me know how it goes and thanks a ton for your time!~

Vanish Mantle, on 16 July 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

I didn't feel like I had done much grinding so I didn't think I should be too high level for the bosses. Like, I grinded for two levels before the mercury lighthouse but otherwise it was just the battles that I would normally encounter, possibly you designed it thinking people may run from more battles than I did though?

And I'll get to xbone isle and lunpa soon, but how would you recommend getting to 50? I'm at 35 right now and it will take a ton of times fighting the tempest lizard just to level once. Like, I leveled from 34-35 in one tempest lizard but then to get to 36 it takes a bunch of them, like, it was a ridiculous leap in exp.

Hi i'm new here just got this account working my other one wouldn't verify >.< any way as Estus said how are you meant to grind to 50? the ammount of XP needed is way to much to grind out on the tempest lizard for over 3M xp needed and grinding it out on a 64k xp boss, which even with the best setup still takes about 4 turns to kill (for me maybe i'm doing it wrong) i think i'm playing the wrong version becasue the XP jump is off the charts?

Edit just seen that once you lvl it put's you straight to 50 well it won't take that long then...

Pyroclasm will be your best friend that or and skill that causes death curse. The huge EXP level gap is there for those who "don't" want to level to 50 just to take on Xbone or Lunpa and would rather just finish the game.

I am really happy that more people are showing interest in the Mods I will definitely be taking suggestions for improvements or changes people would like to see in EX.

It's not the XP gap it was more that i didn't realize that you made it so when you leveled from 35 to 36 it also made you go to level 50 Also i didn't know that curse stacked so i was killing it with moves still only takes around 4 turns for me but switching my setup to curse him made it slightly quicker I have a comment on the Blessed Mace it's unleash Boreas is annoying, it take along time to get through even if you skip the opening, it was a nice touch though.

S.T.K., on 19 July 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

I never really had Mia attacking or anyone other than her use a mace so I never really worried about it. I am sure it is annoying to which affect I apologize I may change it but i like the way it works currently.