Insane Difficulty: #GamerGate—A long-time-coming wake up call? - Insane Difficulty

Advent, on 23 October 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:

So it has become about misogyny. QED. Such is the problem of twitter/hashtag to having any sort of real discussion.

As for the stifling, isn't the pullout of sponsorship under pressure (Intel/gamesutra) an indirect means to reduce publishing such topics?

(and calling anyone on a different viewpoint a SJW is an equally horrible strawman, lest I call you an MRA. It's neither helpful nor informative)

philsov, on 23 October 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

In other news, every theist is a hateful, repressive, misogynistic, gay bashing tool.

This is the logic, or lack thereof, that you are using. Do you not see what you're doing?

philsov, on 23 October 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

The pulling of ads is a consumer statement.

philsov, on 23 October 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

I have yet to see anyone on the other side of the issue who was not an SJW, corrupt gaming journalist, or with some kind of financial stake in it.

I am not straw manning anyone, that is what they are showing themselves to be.

Edit: And that MRA shit really disgusts me to the core. If you're going to use a filthy comparison, at least use one that has the slightest bit of merit. My white privilege is entirely destroyed by other factors.

This post has been edited by Advent: 23 October 2014 - 09:35 AM

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Well with theists it's easy to go back to the source material and then call them out on their bullshit. But here it's nothing but True Scotsmen Gamers left and right. Meanwhile, again, the only tangible results of gamergate thus far have come at the hands of this so-called fringe, and none of them are good.

In addition to this journalistic integrity thing, there is an entirely different discussion going on about hyperfeminists and anti-feminists and everyone in between, and this very topic is a perfect example of that. Abandon ship and find another hashtag/banner, imo. Or take active steps to stifle the "fringe".

philsov, on 23 October 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

That's a pretty wild claim. How do you figure?

The fringe of GamerGate are not the ones e-mailing these companies and requesting that their ads be pulled. The fringe are the ones launching hate campaigns (on both sides, mind) and being hateful douchebags on Twitter.

I fail to see how telling companies to pull their ads is misogynistic.

Edit: I'd also like to know how No True Scotsman applies.

philsov, on 23 October 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

I'm aware of that, and GamerGate is indeed suffering the same thing. Finding another banner would not change that. Like any other extremist ideology, they'd just migrate because they take the ideals of the sane and take them to such an extreme that it warps them beyond recognition.

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Based Mom was just on MSNBC defending the movement.

I love her.

Wham

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Taking it a step back, what accomplishments have occurred? Drop in traffic for review sites? Any reviewers/managers getting fired? All I've heard about is nothing but "make life miserable" for people at the hands of the fringe.

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How does one differentiate a fringe member from a legit member?

Even rape victims point out that Gamers level up via raping female game developers.

Don't worry, it's just the mainstream entertainment television making a rape joke directed at all of you. Carry on.

And Ice-T is the hero. Not only for explaining every single acronym the writers managed to look up on urban dictionary, but for being a Spawn Camper.

Eric_Norris, on 17 February 2015 - 01:01 AM, said:

Color me shocked.