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#1 Praetarius5018

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18 December 2016 - 01:10 PM

Download v5

Not compatible with vanilla / pre-v4 savegames!!

Goal:
none, I just wanted to vent frustration.
I somehow ended up creating ~70 new skills (the original had 40 spells) and one additional final boss.
Somehow even a little bit of "skilling" is now possible; each new spell/skill adds a few stats; different spells, different stats. With only 36 spell slots for ~90 learnable spells out of ~110, hf.
Btw. if you love Guy and Dekar having little options in battle besides attack, attack, IP, item - you'll be disappointed; even they got some skill options, only ~50 but still some more than maximum spell slots.

Rant:
I was frustrated with my main project and needed something to vent my stress... and then this happened.
I threw some stuff together, added a fixxer patch, stole some minor patches from Artemis, and called it a day... or 5 weeks.
I didn't really play it, only verified that:
-I can beat the training cave (I actually had to nerf the tutorial mobs, go figure)
-the first required fight with Gades is beatable (the used save even had Dekar at a lower level than now possible, huh)
-the final boss doesn't insta-wipe you at Lv99 (I got him down to half and I had no stat boosts from learned spells)
every other bet is off the table. :trollface:

Don't expect any balance, I made it after all.

If you ever wanted to play a mod before the idiot that made it had a real chance to, nows your chance.

Spoiler

and I only wanted to play the original once again after... 16 years...? seems like I got marginally sidetracked. Marginally.

This post has been edited by Praetarius5018: 13 February 2017 - 10:35 AM

#2 Anima Zero

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19 December 2016 - 05:14 AM

Well damn, this is a surprise! Gonna play this on Hard Mode because I like pain.

Also, as I found out just now, this hack won't work properly in ZSNES because the Elcid spell shop has a bunch of 0 mp 0 gold spells and Reset never shows up on the skill wheel or in Maxim's spell list. Snes9x works just fine though it seems.

#3 AuraOfTheDawn

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19 December 2016 - 05:22 AM

Well fuck, there went my spare time. Rip quality time spent with RetroAchievements, I love the hell out of this game. The fact that you've gone BNW and actually added features for balance and variety helps even more, compared to an expected stathack (or near stathack).

I'll be all over this. And if it's any good, hell, maybe I'll put a set together for it.

Also, if this is what you do when you're 'marginally' sidetracked, I'd love to see you buckle down and focus on a big project, like world peace, or ending hunger. Making N64 emulation not suck. Shit, we could have a utopia inside a few years.

#4 Anima Zero

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19 December 2016 - 05:27 AM

I suppose this may be obvious in its answer, but just for clarity...once a spell is learned, there's no way to remove it permanently from your spell list, correct? Just so I know so I don't ram into the spell limit too early thinking otherwise.

EDIT: Also, it'd be nice if the spells list in the zipfile was organized either by what's available at each town or sorted in alphabetical order. Would make it easier sifting through it to look at spell effects.

#5 Praetarius5018

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19 December 2016 - 09:19 AM

Anima Zero, on 19 December 2016 - 05:14 AM, said:

Well damn, this is a surprise! Gonna play this on Hard Mode because I like pain.

I got a game over to the first two random Moths that spawned on the world map, so good luck >.>
At least you no longer get 2 shotted by Red Jelly.

Anima Zero, on 19 December 2016 - 05:14 AM, said:

Also, as I found out just now, this hack won't work properly in ZSNES because the Elcid spell shop has a bunch of 0 mp 0 gold spells and Reset never shows up on the skill wheel or in Maxim's spell list. Snes9x works just fine though it seems.

I'm not versed in ZSNES so I can't help with that; I haven't used a copy of ZSNES in probably 10 years.
I think ZSNES does auto apply patches? Maybe it threw the headered one on a non-header Rom (or vice-versa).

AuraOfTheDawn, on 19 December 2016 - 05:22 AM, said:

Can it even be an inspiration if I've never played it? Probably.
At least it is a good one.

Anima Zero, on 19 December 2016 - 05:27 AM, said:

Exactly.
You'll have to make a few decisions: decent skill with a few stat boosts now or a better skill with different stats later. Plus gold will also be a limiting factor.
Even if I could add an option for removing spells, I wouldn't. It would just be an super-easy way to get max stats.
Buy a first town spell like Strong, remove slot, repeat until affected stats are maxed.

Anima Zero, on 19 December 2016 - 05:27 AM, said:

EDIT: Also, it'd be nice if the spells list in the zipfile was organized either by what's available at each town or sorted in alphabetical order. Would make it easier sifting through it to look at spell effects.

you should be able to sort it just with the regular excel functions; mark everything then "Data" -> "Sort".
The list is in the order they are saved in the code (spell id), so it was easier to copy info back and forth. I'm lazy that way.

AuraOfTheDawn, on 19 December 2016 - 05:22 AM, said:

Also, if this is what you do when you're 'marginally' sidetracked, I'd love to see you buckle down and focus on a big project, like world peace, or ending hunger. Making N64 emulation not suck. Shit, we could have a utopia inside a few years.

I wish skills for rom hacking were that easily applicable to "life hacking"... too bad they aren't.

#6 Artemis

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19 December 2016 - 02:02 PM

Played a little bit. As I'm a little bit worn out regarding Lufia I just skipped to the grand finale. Although I beat him first try, I absolutely cannot judge the difficulty properly due to so much stuff changed. Looks quite hard, though. Especially with Valor nerfed that much. Are there any other stronger healing spells then?

And regarding the spells, how is the AC supposed to work? Will there be more spells as well?

#7 AuraOfTheDawn

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19 December 2016 - 02:34 PM

Praetarius5018, on 19 December 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

Errr. I don't see a 'removal' working that way. Gaining a spell = +stat, losing a spell = -stat, in equal amounts. (or just make a pay a buncha gold to wipe and respec, if not by individuals. That makes it less penalizing, but still prevents you from constantly swapping x for y, depending on fights and what you need.) Would love to see this be an option, though obviously it would be a fair bit of ASM.

#8 Praetarius5018

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19 December 2016 - 03:01 PM

Artemis, on 19 December 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

Especially with Valor nerfed that much. Are there any other stronger healing spells then?

Champion is the strongest direct healing spell with a max of 1800/#targets or 450 for each in the group at 999 INT.
"Close" second would be Resolve with GUT + (current IP value on a 0-255 scale)/2 so at best 326, but not divided by targets and applying even to the CM.

I'm not a fan of "the enemy didn't kill you? w/e here's your everyone is at max HP again" spells.
And a "500 HP for everyone spell with chance for revive" is kinda close when some don't even get 600 max HP.
Also well planned less-than-everyone healing should be useful, too.

Artemis, on 19 December 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

And regarding the spells, how is the AC supposed to work? Will there be more spells as well?

The new spells should be available in the AC but I didn't change the amount/chance.
What little I know about AC generation would only mean taking away from other chest types, e.g. less armors.

AuraOfTheDawn, on 19 December 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

Ok, yeah, that would be one theoretical way.
But I'm not fluid in GUIs.... maybe once I get the event scripts down we could talk about a random, useless NPC that offers for 10m gold to wipe spells and stats - this would include all bonuses from stat pots and the shrine event though since those use the same variables.

#9 AuraOfTheDawn

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19 December 2016 - 03:49 PM

I would even be in favor of that stat loss. This is just a save if you've completely fucked your characters up, and need a respec, not just 'ohey, I wanna change out a spell' That encourages you not to do this unless you have to, even if stat potions are farmable, it'd be a hit to lose all-games stat potions (to say nothing of the shrine) and enough of one to not make the respec an immediate 'attractive option for optimal stats'.

#10 Artemis

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19 December 2016 - 04:07 PM

Praetarius5018, on 19 December 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

The new spells should be available in the AC but I didn't change the amount/chance.
What little I know about AC generation would only mean taking away from other chest types, e.g. less armors.

Actually spells have their very own pool and don't affect other stuff like weapons or armors.

And another thing about EXP:
Actually you can give bosses more than 65535 EXP. As the battles themselves can give additional up to 65535 EXP. This mechanic is used only one single time for the refights with the clowns. So check out the place where the boss parties are initialized and look for the numbers 2000 (EXP) and 3000 (Gold) to see which bytes you have to change in the other boss battle set-ups.

So you can give everyone a 2.5x increase - excluding the Egg Dragon.

#11 Anima Zero

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19 December 2016 - 06:17 PM

So far on Hard Mode...at level 15 and just took out the Catfish boss. Rather high, but I really wanted to get two Eagle Rocks because of that sweet boost to agility. Being able to outspeed everything right now's great just in case something comes along bearing some insane attack power. Pretty fun for a hardtype/rebalance thus far!

#12 Praetarius5018

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19 December 2016 - 11:23 PM

Artemis, on 19 December 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Actually spells have their very own pool and don't affect other stuff like weapons or armors.

I meant that out of a 100 chests we still have the same amount of spells as before, let's say only 5 are spells (no idea how many really are). I could increase that to maybe 10 at the cost of 3 potions and 2 armors or something.

Artemis, on 19 December 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

And another thing about EXP:
Actually you can give bosses more than 65535 EXP. As the battles themselves can give additional up to 65535 EXP. This mechanic is used only one single time for the refights with the clowns. So check out the place where the boss parties are initialized and look for the numbers 2000 (EXP) and 3000 (Gold) to see which bytes you have to change in the other boss battle set-ups.

So you can give everyone a 2.5x increase - excluding the Egg Dragon.

Ok, that's a good hint, thanks.

Anima Zero, on 19 December 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

Well, what do you think why Tia now joins with Lv11 instead of 8

Oh wait, I forgot to increase the chance for boss drops to max, didn't I ? x.x

#13 Anima Zero

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20 December 2016 - 03:07 AM

Praetarius5018, on 19 December 2016 - 11:23 PM, said:

Well, what do you think why Tia now joins with Lv11 instead of 8

Oh wait, I forgot to increase the chance for boss drops to max, didn't I ? x.x

Max as in 100% or max as in whatever the game allows the maximum to be? Took me about 10-15 tries to get the Catfish Jewel to drop.

#14 Praetarius5018

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20 December 2016 - 03:58 AM

Anima Zero, on 20 December 2016 - 03:07 AM, said:

Max as in 100% or max as in whatever the game allows the maximum to be? Took me about 10-15 tries to get the Catfish Jewel to drop.

Max as what is allowed.
Afaik Catfish has about 6% chance to drop in vanilla; Camu should be the same-ish.
Since I don't want "grinding" to be the main part of difficulty I'll set the chance to max in the next version.
Any other bosses that can currently drop anything?
I'll probably look it up in a faq to be sure I don't miss one...

#15 Anima Zero

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20 December 2016 - 04:06 AM

Only other boss that I distinctly remember having a drop is the boss after Camu, Tarantula (Has a Spido Jewel or whatever it's called).

#16 Artemis

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20 December 2016 - 04:30 AM

Allowed is 25% as maximum - however, one of rainponcho's patches increases it to 100%.

And Idura's minions in the 1st and 3rd fight drop magic fruits.

However, you must consider that giving off a guaranteed Spider Jewel completely changes the meta-game. That's why most of my Kureji bosses have that especially high base AGL - completely for appearance's sake. Spiderweb can drop an enemy's AGL from 500 to 100. A great example for its brokenness is Anma's fight against the Fire Dragon. :yes

#17 Praetarius5018

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20 December 2016 - 05:50 AM

Artemis, on 20 December 2016 - 04:30 AM, said:

And Idura's minions in the 1st and 3rd fight drop magic fruits.

Considering how drops work (only 1 per battle), this might be a mean trap :whistle:

Oh wait Idura != Camu, nevermind - I'll do something with this later.

Artemis, on 20 December 2016 - 04:30 AM, said:

However, you must consider that giving off a guaranteed Spider Jewel completely changes the meta-game. That's why most of my Kureji bosses have that especially high base AGL - completely for appearance's sake. Spiderweb can drop an enemy's AGL from 500 to 100. A great example for its brokenness is Anma's fight against the Fire Dragon. :yes

If it is THAT good, it is almost guaranteed to be worth a potential "grind", so I might just as well give it guaranteed and nerf it a bit. In doubt it can be gotten in the AC, so there's no obstacle to possess it except patience and luck.

Dunno, changes to some IP skills are still a to-do.

#18 Artemis

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20 December 2016 - 05:56 AM

Also for the Egg Dragon you will need this:
Eggnumeration

Also, looking at the Frue Daos code, what exactly does the 38? As in:
32 06
38
2c 13

#19 Praetarius5018

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20 December 2016 - 09:15 AM

Artemis, on 20 December 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

Also for the Egg Dragon you will need this:
Eggnumeration

Yes, indeed. :unworthy:

Artemis, on 20 December 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

Also, looking at the Frue Daos code, what exactly does the 38? As in:
32 06
38
2c 13

normally it resets the game because the pointer goes directly to a BRK, but I pointed it to a custom function that "cancels" the 5C code, as in damage numbers/misses are no longer hidden.

Code 39 would be my own creation as well, it is just 37 but with added lookup for weapon animation, element, crit rate/dmg and status effects; needed for weapon based skills to keep those properties. Normally those are cancelled out by the base being a spell, so not intended to use those values. On IP skills 37 would usually suffice.

#20 Praetarius5018

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20 December 2016 - 12:32 PM

mini-update

v0.2
-increased Big Catfish's drop rate for Catfish jwl. to max
-increased Tarantula's drop rate for Spido jewel to max
-increased Camu's drop rate for Camu jewel to max
-increased MP cost of skill Critical from 3 to 7

Critical is a bit misplaced, imo.
Crits aren't that good early on because they only ignore defense, which early on is as good as 0.
Later, e.g. against Gades, it is almost too good, ignore massive 200-300 defense when you have < 300 ATP? I'll take that.

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