I'm trying to get a feel for how much people use items -- as you can see -- for healing in particular so we can decide where to go with the hack as far as items and HP levels are concerned.
Healing item values are hardcoded into the game, so an HP buff across the board (Emitai's idea) would reduce the viability of healing items later on in the game. I could probably work around that by tweaking abilities, but we'd like to know what you guys think first.
Edit: And also, your thoughts about healing items in comparison to magic. I personally tend to swing towards healing abilities rather than items more often than not, but it's always helpful to hear another perspective.
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03 October 2013 - 05:00 PM
Depends on the game. Also, Miley Cyrus is really sexy. I've got a mega crush on her.
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03 October 2013 - 05:01 PM
even healing herbs (first healing item) ia usefull even late game, not on battle but out of battle you can use then to heal your party, healing herbs are cheap and you can buy 99 and sustain across dungeons
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03 October 2013 - 05:07 PM
Abaddon, on 03 October 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:
Depends on the game.
well since it's in the BoF 3 sub forum...
i use them quite a bit as i tend to try and save my AP for harder battles.
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03 October 2013 - 05:09 PM
joeafro, on 03 October 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:
well since it's in the BoF 3 sub forum...
lol
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03 October 2013 - 05:10 PM
joeafro, on 03 October 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:
i use them quite a bit as i tend to try and save my AP for harder battles.
Gotcha. What I'd like to do is make magic as a whole (not Momo/Nina; that's a whole different issue) more attractive, but I don't want to do it in a way that completely overshadows items.
That could be done in many different ways, from changing the base power of spells (this will be happening) to tweaking AP costs, when certain abilities are learned, and maybe even how much AP your characters have.
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03 October 2013 - 05:12 PM
healing magics are fine, attack spells that are the problem
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03 October 2013 - 05:14 PM
Abaddon, on 03 October 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:
Depends on the game. Also, Miley Cyrus is really sexy. I've got a mega crush on her.
Just...no.
And I use them fairly often throughout. Gotta save that AP, you know?
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03 October 2013 - 05:17 PM
Angel, on 03 October 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:
Gotta save that AP, you know?
Emitai just brought up a really good point. The problem is that the healing magics are on Ryu, and you wanna save up your AP for Accession. Aside from Ryu, only Peco and Momo can heal, and Peco only has one healing spell.
I'm considering taking a fresh look at each character's role and trying to balance that out a bit more without changing them entirely. Such as giving Nina a few healing or defensive spells. I'm not sure yet, though. Just something I'm looking at.
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03 October 2013 - 06:01 PM
I could see Nina having some healing potential. Would prolly be pretty nice.
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03 October 2013 - 06:05 PM
Angel, on 03 October 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
I could see Nina having some healing potential. Would prolly be pretty nice.
i'm afraid of giving her heals because maybe it can make she feels the same as momo
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04 October 2013 - 01:26 AM
I use them a bit early on and then pretty much never.
I'd like to use them all the time, though. Preparing for a dungeon crawl, deciding how much gold to spend on gear and how much on items, is an important aspect of RPG.
This gets very dilluted with ability to grind exp and/or get functionally infinite gold
I'd like to use them all the time, though. Preparing for a dungeon crawl, deciding how much gold to spend on gear and how much on items, is an important aspect of RPG.
This gets very dilluted with ability to grind exp and/or get functionally infinite gold
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04 October 2013 - 08:23 AM
maxi, on 04 October 2013 - 01:26 AM, said:
I use them a bit early on and then pretty much never.
I'd like to use them all the time, though. Preparing for a dungeon crawl, deciding how much gold to spend on gear and how much on items, is an important aspect of RPG.
This gets very dilluted with ability to grind exp and/or get functionally infinite gold
I'd like to use them all the time, though. Preparing for a dungeon crawl, deciding how much gold to spend on gear and how much on items, is an important aspect of RPG.
This gets very dilluted with ability to grind exp and/or get functionally infinite gold
If I could, this would be one of the things I'd change but with item healing being hardcoded I'm rather limited in what I can change about them.
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04 October 2013 - 08:56 AM
It is not so much about healing as about item availability.
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04 October 2013 - 09:56 AM
maxi, on 04 October 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:
It is not so much about healing as about item availability.
Ah. Gotcha.
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06 October 2013 - 09:06 AM
I should have posted this here, it was part of character stat/skills post:
why not just make healing items a lot more expensive so they can't be bought en masse.
Healing herbs are 8c
Vitamins are 50c
I think Multivitamins are 300c
Make healing herbs 50c
Vitamins 300c
Multivitamins 2000c
Now characters who can heal are actually valuable, they save you a ton of cash
why not just make healing items a lot more expensive so they can't be bought en masse.
Healing herbs are 8c
Vitamins are 50c
I think Multivitamins are 300c
Make healing herbs 50c
Vitamins 300c
Multivitamins 2000c
Now characters who can heal are actually valuable, they save you a ton of cash
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06 October 2013 - 09:24 AM
That would just promote grinding.
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06 October 2013 - 09:28 AM
XtraT, on 06 October 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:
That would just promote grinding.
This. Characters who heal will be viable, as I'll be toning up some of the magic values.
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06 October 2013 - 01:05 PM
IIRC heals were pretty viable, it's just that you wanted to save your AP for the boss, so you used items to heal randoms and then used your AP on the boss (AP restorative items were a bitch to get compared to herbs/vitamins)
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06 October 2013 - 01:07 PM
XtraT, on 06 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:
IIRC heals were pretty viable, it's just that you wanted to save your AP for the boss, so you used items to heal randoms and then used your AP on the boss (AP restorative items were a bitch to get compared to herbs/vitamins)
I guess viable was the wrong word there. I might see about putting some AP restoring items in shops though.
