Insane Difficulty: Gamma Sword - Insane Difficulty

Yeah, I did have him come with 10 Shurikens and 1 of each scroll, but that Quicksilver I'm sure I didn't intend. I don't see why I would have him come with one anyway simply due to how powerful it can be. I think it used to be a Smoke Bomb a long time ago actually, before I changed that item to Quicksilver, which would explain this . But yes like you say I did add those other items intentionally, like he comes with some ninja items.

As for this Gamma Sword issue, I'm still not able to find out what/when/or how it's happening. I still suspect these fishy unused monster attack animations, but I can't seem to trigger it. Been trying on snes9x here now. I'd really love some help if anybody who's had it happen to them can go back to a previous save and try...I'm not what exactly, but just try to get that damn sword back into their inventory lol. Follow their exact footsteps from right before the Floating Continent, that window of being sure it wasn't in your inventory to seeing it there. Same party, same attack pattern if possible, etc. It seems pretty easy to trigger since two of you here had it happen to them somehow, but for me it's driving me crazy trying to re-produce!

The sword used to be the Dirk, item #0 btw, not that that helps any identify the issue, but maybe if there is some known glitch or way to receive a dirk that anyone might know of or help trigger an idea...

Gi Nattak, on 16 June 2015 - 11:27 AM, said:

The Dirk huh? interesting, that would potentially make some sense: in the vanilla there are many situation in which Dirk is assigned in weird places, instead of empty, for example there's some unused shop in which there are 8 Dirks as selling items, or Unused Actors equipped in all equip/relic slots with Dirk, or Morph item pack which have as possible 4 items only Dirks...
I wonder if in some event, vanilla or not, it was placed a dirk in the inventory or something... normally no one would even notice something weak like that, but what if it would become suddenly a Gamma Sword?

Tenkarider, on 16 June 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:

Yeah, I've checked all the monster drops, morph packs, shops, treasures, event code, and have tested playing everything I can think of basically and nothing that I can find yet ;_;
I need to get this fixed but without knowing what exactly is causing it, well, it's driving me crazy lol!
It sounds like it has to be around the Thamasa-Floating Continent area since that's where these two folks have reported noticing it, I should probably just switch back the unused special monster animations, but I'd really like to see it happen or know exactly which one and how/what causes the glitch. I'm going to keep at it here today.

Gi Nattak, on 17 June 2015 - 12:40 PM, said:

What if the Flashback with FuSoYa and Golbez could be the reason? Maybe some unexpected command happens due to losing, instead of winning or vice-versa... I remember that it happened also when you had to accept or refuse 3 times the proposal of Astral.
PS. which weapon did Golbez use? any chance it was Gamma Blade?
I'd open the rom for you(after finishing the game) , but unfortunately i'm too much busy to even play right now...

Nah that wouldn't be it. I just removed the gameover subcommand after those fights, not a branch to something else.

Hey Zozmaasmodeus or Zooza, might you guys have a save or save state right before the Floating Continent still by any chance that you could send me?

Sadly, no

Man this is becoming quite the problem. And to add to my problems i usually play with Fast Foward when i know i'm stronger than Trash Mobs in dungeons or places so i wouldn't know if it was a trash drop from random encounters.

Yeah it is really becoming a headache, I am the kind to not stop until I fix these bugs/glitches but this one seems so elusive, if I could just see it happen once...

Just to explore all avenues, what was your team when you went to the Floating Continent?
Both you Zooza, and Zozmaasmodeus.
And Zozmaasmodeus, did you still hang on to that save state by any chance?

@ Zooza (or anyone else that is unable to use ZSNES) I'd recommend giving this emulator a try, if you should ever feel like starting over that is, once this next version of the hack is released:

uosnesw - http://www.filewatch....1224200-0.html

It is a good emulator (imo) and will play all the songs flawlessly, like ZSNES does. Hopefully it will work on newer computers that won't run ZSNES.

Gi Nattak, on 17 June 2015 - 06:17 PM, said:

Serin and Cloud (FuSoYa and Oboro being part of the story)

My team when heading to the floating continent was Avalon and Cloud. I do think I still have that state yes.

Zozmaasmodeus, on 19 June 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

That would be great if you did, please send it to my email if you could:
mikeferrell@live.com

Or host it on Mediafire, either or.

Also just to make sure again, you are using snes9x v1.5.3 correct?

Thanks.

I sent you my save state. That is the emulator I'm running yes.

Zozmaasmodeus, on 19 June 2015 - 04:25 PM, said:

Thanks man, I received it.
Having a bit of difficulty loading it though, I see it is an .frz extension which I'm not familiar with, but doing a quick google search I see I'd just have to rename the extension from 000-009 and put it in the snes9x save folder. So I did that and now when I try to load the correct save state # I named it to, it says incompatible snapshot version. I'm using snes9x v1.5.3 as well so I'm not sure.

Hmm odd not sure why it won't work.

Is that emulator a wii version perhaps? Or Iphone or something?

Ah I hadn't thought to mention I play on my android phone.

I'll be glad to share a pre-Floating Continent save when I reach that point if a solution has still yet to found.

Just remembered that Chupon's steal item is a Dirk in the Ultros + Chupon fight in the original game.

Broke the game again. Went to the cave with the Cael Hammer and saved outside. Entered, grabbed it, Teleported out. "Where's my airship?" Game dropped my party off outside the hermit's hut in the exact spot where I had taken off from before going to the cave. I guess the airship was still where I had parked it though I reset straight away. It would have been inaccessible anyways.

Assassin uses MP to do critical hits. Intentional? Edit: almost certainly false alarm

Addition: A Ninja Knife has mysteriously appeared in my inventory. ??? I'm just before Floating Continent in the story. Guessing this is somehow intentional, just a surprise since I had upgraded the starting one at the Colliseum.

LoveColorMagic, on 20 June 2015 - 08:27 PM, said:

When i did WoB bossrush i stole to Majin Bu a Golden Apple, dunno if he has a rare steal too...
Wrong teleport? it reminds me Viki from Suikoden XD now i wonder how works the script to escape from a dungeon.
PS. actually it's not inaccessible, despite that, because...

LoveColorMagic, on 20 June 2015 - 08:27 PM, said:

Good find, good find. That teleport to the wrong area is something that's baffled me for a long time, I'll have to disable teleporting from that map because I can't figure out exactly how it works, in order to fix it. But this is a good time to try and learn more about it now.

Ninja Knife appearing in the inventory might be due to removing Oboro's equipment command that I might have snuck in there after Jericho, but I'm not 100% on that - might you know if he was equipped with it before he left?If he wasn't, then this sounds like the same mystery Gamma Sword kind of issue that is the current bane on my existence!

Assassin criticals, same thing I'm not sure or rather I cannot remember doing that lol. I don't see why I would make that change though, will look into it as well!

Thanks very much for the reports. =)

Should have an update coming out this next week.