Insane Difficulty: Balancing the feather, speed bracer, etc. (v9 mechanics) - Insane Difficulty

Darkcelestrian, on 01 January 2017 - 05:59 AM, said:

I agree. That's why I proposed permanent full break to bring it in line with other accessories while still allowing better versions to come out with better stats, etc.

Doomsday, on 01 January 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

That might be the best solution for balancing double turns then.

Darkcelestrian, on 01 January 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

We'll see.

The one thing that worries me more the more I think about it is whether it will still lead to every character using it to defend every turn. The only difference is it won't be as effective as in the beta and fights will take twice as long from the reduced damage. The net effect would still be taking half damage, though, which makes survival much easier. That alone is dangerously useful. Due to the existance of super attacks, it wouldn't work for EVERY fight... but it would work against a large number of super bosses.

Perhaps a better option would be to leave the damage dealt alone but quadruple the damage taken? Then it would effectively give you a "blitz" option every turn, where you would get to attack a second time, but you'd take 4x as much damage if you do. Of course, it would also mean you have to defend just to get back to your "normal" damage taken, so you can't effectively block super attacks like Crystal Stars.

Doomsday, on 01 January 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

That sounds pretty nice actually, the potential damage would be enticing while also providing more risk should you choose to use it, might make it so I don't have to use peach as the main damage output most of the time. Would buffed (geno boost/items, ect) characters make that 4x more like 3x or 2.5x damage vulnerability?

Darkcelestrian, on 02 January 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

Well, there's many different buffs and debuffs that would all combine together:

x4:
Double Turn enabled (target)

x2:
Fear (target)
ATK UP (caster)
Galaxy Boost (caster)
Full Break (target)
Perfect timed hit (caster)

x1.5:
Successful timed hit (caster)

x0.5:
Fear (caster)
Invincible (target)
Galaxy Boost (target)
Full Break (caster)
Successful block (target)
Successful perfect block (target)

x0.25:
Defending (target)


Those are all the buffs/debuffs I can think of in v9, with the double turn one proposed. Of course, there's other multipliers involved that determine the final damage, but these are the ones that can vary with a single attack. Note for timed hits, many attacks apply multiple simultaneous timed hits.

Sorry forthe absence guys, something came up, and I didn't want the hack interfering.
I will now re-read the bugs page and start cleaning this thing up......

well I think we all agree that doubel turns is OP. However, my main focus right are the bugs. I'll take about balancing this thing later.