Skills and battles CH4
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#1
18 February 2017 - 10:33 AM
hi! I returned ,after playing and get stucked on Riovanes.(about 4 mounths)
I start a new game ,this time playing with a lot of spells and magic on the team.
I'm now at CH4 Betlha Garrison (Generic team of 4 / Mustadio / rafa-malak / mother fucker onion beast) and I get stucked again
My lvl is 20 with Ramza and some generics (I know i know it's much for the place where I stay,some people who rules won the game at this level ,but I really enjoy it,I learn a lot and get funny momentss)
Well I have questions so here we go:
1)Hamedo and teleport(the best),where in the hell can I get it?( I mean in the random batlles ,no at the story line batlles,'cos i'm stucked)
2)Hart told me once that enginner job could gear 2 guns at the same time (double shoot),it's that truth? I reach at 2 swords in Mustadio and doesn't work .. which guns ? or it's not possible ( i have 2 magic cannons)
3)This its older : north wall seems easier and better in the reward ( stealeble important bow),but what about the south wall I read something about a Faith rod?''
that is alll for now
thank u and GL,from argentina
I start a new game ,this time playing with a lot of spells and magic on the team.
I'm now at CH4 Betlha Garrison (Generic team of 4 / Mustadio / rafa-malak / mother fucker onion beast) and I get stucked again
My lvl is 20 with Ramza and some generics (I know i know it's much for the place where I stay,some people who rules won the game at this level ,but I really enjoy it,I learn a lot and get funny momentss)
Well I have questions so here we go:
1)Hamedo and teleport(the best),where in the hell can I get it?( I mean in the random batlles ,no at the story line batlles,'cos i'm stucked)
2)Hart told me once that enginner job could gear 2 guns at the same time (double shoot),it's that truth? I reach at 2 swords in Mustadio and doesn't work .. which guns ? or it's not possible ( i have 2 magic cannons)
3)This its older : north wall seems easier and better in the reward ( stealeble important bow),but what about the south wall I read something about a Faith rod?''
that is alll for now
thank u and GL,from argentina
#2
18 February 2017 - 11:06 AM
1.) I'm not exactly certain what you're asking, but I'm guessing you mean where can you learn those skills from crystals? They're certainly skills the enemy can pick, so they're out there, though as expensive skills, they'll be much less common at lower levels. The problem may also be the % chance to learn them, which can be different for certain skills. If you want to know the % for specific skills, you can open up your ISO with FFTPatcher and check.
2.) Only the AI engineers gets to be Chow Yun Fat and run pistols-akimbo. Sadly, the best us mortals can do is a gun/shield combo. If you're looking for something close, give Marche a gun and cast Spirit Combo through it.
3.) The Faith Rod was moved (to Murond, I believe), and the other rares from that fight are farmable, so grabbing the rare bow is your best option.
2.) Only the AI engineers gets to be Chow Yun Fat and run pistols-akimbo. Sadly, the best us mortals can do is a gun/shield combo. If you're looking for something close, give Marche a gun and cast Spirit Combo through it.
3.) The Faith Rod was moved (to Murond, I believe), and the other rares from that fight are farmable, so grabbing the rare bow is your best option.
#3
18 February 2017 - 12:30 PM
Tabeguache, on 18 February 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:
1.) I'm not exactly certain what you're asking, but I'm guessing you mean where can you learn those skills from crystals? They're certainly skills the enemy can pick, so they're out there, though as expensive skills, they'll be much less common at lower levels. The problem may also be the % chance to learn them, which can be different for certain skills. If you want to know the % for specific skills, you can open up your ISO with FFTPatcher and check.
What I ask is where can I found the random battles,like ninja in araguay woods ( making a vanilla example,there you can learn two swords/abandon )bWhere can I found samurais who crystalized in random batlles.I found a violent mision in Fovo.Plains,going for riovanes but they won't cristalize
Tabeguache, on 18 February 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:
2.) Only the AI engineers gets to be Chow Yun Fat and run pistols-akimbo. Sadly, the best us mortals can do is a gun/shield combo. If you're looking for something close, give Marche a gun and cast Spirit Combo through it.
well I guess mustadio with 2 swords ,presision and move 3 it doesn´t gonna be bad for some missions
Tabeguache, on 18 February 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:
3.) The Faith Rod was moved (to Murond, I believe), and the other rares from that fight are farmable, so grabbing the rare bow is your best option.
it's better North in that case I guess,the problem its now how can I reach faster the top of the castle's tower
(y) tnks 4 the help!
#5
18 February 2017 - 05:02 PM
Your best bet to find where specific enemies can show up, and whether they're flagged as "immortal" (meaning they can't crystallize), would be to use FFTpatcher and just look through the data.
I'm not trying to be obscure, I just don't know.
Another factor is that being a samurai doesn't guarantee that a unit will know hamedo, and you may find other enemies that aren't samurai that do have hamedo. As I understand it, the enemies have a pool of JP from which to build themselves, and there's some kind of heuristics the AI uses to match things up like items and abilities. The higher your level, the more JP the enemy will get to play with. Since teleport and hamedo are both expensive, it would stand to reason you're more likely to see those abilities at higher levels, and probably will never below a certain threshold.
Someone else can probably explain how enemy units are created better than I can, but that's my limited understanding.
Also, enemies aren't created the same way every time, so if you hammer a certain location, even if you get the same team of enemies, they'll likely have a different, if similar, collection of items and abilities. It may end up coming down to how patient you are, and/or how willing you are to abuse save-states in order to 1) find a unit that has the ability you want and 2) get lucky enough for that ability to show up in a crystal for you.
I'm not trying to be obscure, I just don't know.
Another factor is that being a samurai doesn't guarantee that a unit will know hamedo, and you may find other enemies that aren't samurai that do have hamedo. As I understand it, the enemies have a pool of JP from which to build themselves, and there's some kind of heuristics the AI uses to match things up like items and abilities. The higher your level, the more JP the enemy will get to play with. Since teleport and hamedo are both expensive, it would stand to reason you're more likely to see those abilities at higher levels, and probably will never below a certain threshold.
Someone else can probably explain how enemy units are created better than I can, but that's my limited understanding.
Also, enemies aren't created the same way every time, so if you hammer a certain location, even if you get the same team of enemies, they'll likely have a different, if similar, collection of items and abilities. It may end up coming down to how patient you are, and/or how willing you are to abuse save-states in order to 1) find a unit that has the ability you want and 2) get lucky enough for that ability to show up in a crystal for you.
#6
19 February 2017 - 01:23 PM
well I found one after get orlandu.The dragoneer fight OMG 3 tries and still cannot defeat
3 unit and the lancer have the hamedo so i'm gonna try again
3 unit and the lancer have the hamedo so i'm gonna try again
#9
20 February 2017 - 11:36 AM
well I am at poeskas lake it seems to me a easy match,lvl 22.I passed peak with guns and talk skill
if I Don´t have those skills at limberry i'm going to farm job's point.The assesins are very strong
if I Don´t have those skills at limberry i'm going to farm job's point.The assesins are very strong
#10
20 February 2017 - 11:08 PM
Level has no effect on how much JP an enemy has available for learning skills. So if you do find a unit with, say, job level 7 Samurai, it will have the same range of JP at Lv. 3 or Lv. 75.
While finding a suitable target with a higher job level will improve your odds, it still comes down to luck and RNG for it to have the skills you want. The chances drop even lower when going for a high cost reaction and a high cost movement ability in classes with several thousand JP worth of action abilities. If you do find a suitable enemy unit and don't mind a casualty in Brave Story, inviting it and cannibalizing it's crystal in a different battle is an option.
The game can set R/S/M on a unit. Any abilities given this way do not come from the enemy's JP pool. Nearly certain such abilities cannot be learned of that unit's crystal.
While finding a suitable target with a higher job level will improve your odds, it still comes down to luck and RNG for it to have the skills you want. The chances drop even lower when going for a high cost reaction and a high cost movement ability in classes with several thousand JP worth of action abilities. If you do find a suitable enemy unit and don't mind a casualty in Brave Story, inviting it and cannibalizing it's crystal in a different battle is an option.
The game can set R/S/M on a unit. Any abilities given this way do not come from the enemy's JP pool. Nearly certain such abilities cannot be learned of that unit's crystal.
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