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  2. Posted · Edited by MCP · Report reply

    Spoiler

    After more than 15 tries, at this point I'm deciding whether I want to pause the game and write down literally every single thing I do, or just stop playing.

    I thought I understood: Cover all 9 things, 8 elements + Non Elemental (NE)

    Do I cover all 9 things before purge and then wait for it?
    That is, if I restart my cycle of covering all 9 before purge, the boss will counter attack, and none of those count to the total of things we need to cast?
    Do I have to do anything specific after purge to reset the elemental cycle?
     

    Celes, Gogo, Strago, Relm
    They all have Auto shell & safe and Strago has auto haste+regen.
    Celes, Strago, Relm: lvl 37
    Gogo lvl 27 with Blitz and Lore.
    Multiguard on all four with as much half to wind/water. Strago and Relm don't have water reduction and it doesn't matter as aqualung counter attack is weaker than 1 or 2 regen cycles.
    Float all available from Celes pre-match, hopefully to evade quake.


    Start of battle:
    Relm: RegenX
    Celes: Magic Demi
    Dark: Strago: Magic Dark
    Holy: Gogo: Blitz Aurabolt
    Relm: Tincture Celes or Strago

    Water: Strago Lore Aqualung
    Fire + Wind: Gogo: Lore Blaze
    Earth: Celes: Magic Bolt 2
    Non-Elemental Relm: Flare

    Ice: Strago Ice/Ice2
    Gogo: Chakra magic regen
    Celes: Seraph esper
    Strago: Tincture or wait
    Adapt if got hit with slow, poison, etc.

    No counter attacks yet.

    I don't see purge or a text window "Kaiser has reset the elements" (don't recall what it says).

    I cast some buffs/items trying to wait for purge...

    When purge happens, I cast float, and I cycle through all the elements again
    I get counter attacked this time.

    But I make sure to to do all 8 attacks to cover all 9 things we're supposed to hit with.

    This is where I started pausing to write down what I'm doing after each Purge, to make sure I've covered all the things.
    Edit: I tried it again after a break. Same problem. I don't understand what's wrong. I wrote down every action I took and nobody died until Ultima. After the 2nd purge I had all nine before Kaiser did their killing attacks.

    But I always end up at Bonebreak, Ultima, Meltdown every time.

    BNW 2.0, having a lot of trouble after 15 tries on this boss, even with this very helpful thread.
    I simply don't understand what I'm supposed to do, because it ends up killing my party sooner or later.

  3. Posted · Edited by MCP
    Got Raze somewhere new     · Report reply

    Edit: I actually got Raze in Gogo's cave. Some enemies have changed and/or moved.
    Raze was also available in Daryl's tomb from the, iirc, Shokan.

    For BNW 2.0, for Raze, I couldn't find this enemy after 15 straight battles in this forest:

    • Allosaurus: Forest Outside Thamasa (WoR)

    This one also did not cast it:

    • Revenant: Phoenix Cave

    From Gau's rage list change log in the readme, it looks like the revenant no longer casts raze?
    --> Revenant --- 2/3 to Holy (was Raze); 1/3 to Blaze (was Firestorm)

    As suggested, one of Gau's Rage abilities does have Raze, if these present problems, assuming the enemy is available before the Tower of Kefka.
    --> Shokan ----- (i.e. Orog) 2/3 to Dark; 1/3 to Raze

    Also, this is my second time playing BNW, and both times I did **not** get this from Hidon:

    Shield

    • Hidon (Ebot's Rock)

    I don't know how to get it.

    (When you google for Strago's lore in BNW, you find this page)

  7. Posted · Edited by MCP · Report reply

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    Strago's non elemental attack we learn from Hidon caused Overkill and elixir auto response.

    Aquarake also caused the same response, but he wasn't weak to water at the time.

    I have a save state mid fight, so I can go back and try it out just for my sanity.

    LOL about quasar and safe. I thought he just would cast that sometimes. It never seemed out of the ordinary.

    Anyways, I like this game because I can plan long term safety and it actually matters. Having mana regenerating matters, e.g. blitz or battery.

    I spent an hour trying the rasp strategy, so I was able to just change up my tactics after an hour.

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    Elixir heals all HP/MP to 9999, so rasp doesn't work. Elixir wasn't showing any MP healing on Magi Master after rasp or bushido 2 so I didn't notice until later.
    FYI my Morphed Terra rasp was doing 1.9k and usually hit around 2/3rds of the time.

    I'm not sure about your strategy. Every thing I tried except for Raid and Slow would cause him to auto cast elixir which heals 9999. So unless a character does more than 9999 per attack, it's not worth it.
    Are you saying, if Magi master casts fire, and I cast Ice, he won't Overkill with auto elixir?

    The only thing I could think of was Cyan bushido 7 tempest with nirvana ring and power gloves for about 3k x 4 with refract to avoid overkill, so overall, doing about 2k damage per round minus some regen which magimaster has. And keep slow applied.

    Eventually that kills the Magi Master...

    FYI, that was Cyan, Strago, and Terra party so I have regenx, regen, and slow.
    Umaro took a "nap".

    BNw 1.9.0

    Thanks

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