Insane Difficulty: *Update:10/6* WOTL 1313 beta 5 Released! - Insane Difficulty

Stann, on 24 September 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

What level where your dudes and how many Chain Lightnings did it take?

papawashere, on 24 September 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

This is a classic 1.3 bug. It happens very rarely but can happen any time you use timed strike on a unit next to a border. Frustrating, I'm sure, but it's very likely to be a one time thing.

papawashere, on 24 September 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

Level 8 or so. I used 2 Mjollnirs and one Timed Strike.

So far, I've realized that attacking things with my weapons is a huge waste of time. This version has all the sandbagging of 1.3 but none of the damage. Doing 25 damage to someone who has Move-HP Up, Defense Up and Regenerator is pretty depressing.

Stann, on 24 September 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Yeah magic scaling is insane compared to physical with the capability to hit aoe from range plus move out of range while casting. I noticed when my Explosion was hitting for 90 by level 3 Black Mage.

Angel, on 24 September 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Shit, you just reminded me of a flash game, Sonny. It's a tangent, I know, but hell. I wish someone here knew about this game.

Is it wrong that I'm restarting Orbonne like 5 times to get good compat generics?

Hart-Hunt, on 24 September 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Yes, it's wrong. Now stop it or I'll punish you.

Hart-Hunt, on 24 September 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

I restarted for a different reason and ended up getting a generic compatible with Ramza and one of the other male characters. My Ramza was Sagittarius, and I got a female character who was Gemini (best compatibility). Then, I had a male generic who was Sagittarius also. A lot of their stuff has 97% to hit (Chant) and I generally make females support oriented anyways due to their innate MA bonus.

Stann, on 24 September 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

The weapon damage issue should catch up by mid-game especially with focus and kakashi's primal roar or whatever the hell I called it. Hp isn't so much 'up' as pa and ma are down by one point on average.

I did see that bio was doing way too much damage so that'll be cut back some next bugfix. Other than that, I'm finding that my spells are doing the same basically shitty damage. Don't neglect things like beat down, demi and bio for % based damage early on before pa and ma gear start dropping and filling in that gap.

As for miluda, who you won't be able to use either on, stop trying to insta assassinate. That's totally intended. You can assassinate all you want but it's not always going to be the easiest way. You get miluda alone, block the bodies (she only has revive which has pretty limited targeting), slow her and beat her to death before the first or second regeneration tick goes off.

Edit: none of which, btw, has anything to do with sandbagging.

DrBretto, on 25 September 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

Don't even remember yourself, hm, Doc? That's hilarious and I love you for it.

The thing with Miluda is if your level gets a little too high you have to spend all your time trying to survive, and you get dunked by double Cyclones from the White Mages. Miluda likes to hide in the back while the Thieves block the middle.

It should be easier with my new record though since I should be only level 7 or so when I get there.

DrBretto, on 25 September 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

I tried fighting her team about 5-6 times, and then said "Screw it" and went for the assassination. Don't presume to know my playstyle, bitch.

Angel, on 25 September 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Honestly, I don't remember half the shit I do, lol.

Stann, on 25 September 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

Well alright then I almost never assassinate. I had not assassinating in mind when setting up the patch. Just feels like assassinating is the wussy way out.

Anyway, I'll have a bug fix patch up by the weekend. Wider-range, but not as hard-hitting Bio, PA boosts for monks/mimes, some other basic stuff. Keep up with the feedback.

FTR, I'm at miluda right now myself and so far I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference with most stuff from regular 1.3 so far except for the weaker weapon strikes, and really it's not a huge difference. I am starting to think that I should shrink up the modifier differentials on the next bigger update and compensate with modifiers instead, but other than that, I'm liking what I've seen so far in general.

If anything, I thought it has been a little easier than I was hoping for, but then again, I haven't hit zeakden yet. I usually just cheat my way past that one anyway and I don't see today as being any different, so i'll need the community's feedback on that one. If I had it my way, the fight would start then Algus trips and breaks his neck and you move onto chapter 2.

Don't forget marksman, btw. Cursed strike isn't as much of a waste to cast now that it includes poison and you can back that up with an explosion to the face. If that doesn't finish it off, the poison will. Also, don't dismiss the power of those % based attacks on enemies with high HP, including those equip armor thieves and white mages in miluda 1. As a black mage, you should almost always open with bio on any enemy susceptible to poison. The newer version has a better hit rate and does less initial damage but it'll still be the biggest damage you will do in a single cast. 33% off the top then poison will either keep on ticking while you whittle them down or at the very least make them waste a turn removing it.

Don't underestimate paralyzing strike, either. Even if the enemy is immune to poison, it may not be immune to immobilize, and an immobilized knight is useless against a bunch of bows and arrows.

Well, Marksman is easily the best job in the beginning, hands down. Timed Strike is the only decent way of doing weapon damage. All the debuffs and Stunning Strike make for an amazing skillset. I'm happy to see Leg Aim back in business as well, I was sad to see it gone in the first place.

I'm just finishing up Lenalia right now. The best strategy I could come up with is:

1: Equip Arrow Guard on everyone.
2: Magic Ruin all the mages.
3: Power Ruin Miluda
4: Wait for everyone to die of old age

Old age, hm? Seems a bit extreme.

I'm going to have to stop playing at this point. I got to Brigand's Den and figured out a winning strategy after 3 more tries, and they only had 3 guys left 2 of which couldn't have done anything. Then my game crashes, again. I've had 4 crashes in simply the last 2 days of play.

papawashere, on 25 September 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles, but as far as I can tell these are not coming from the mod except for the old timed strike bug which has been there since the beginning.

Thanks for the Mime fix

Not that I couldn't have done something myself. I was to busy enjoying level 1 mimes.

So I've been doing some investigating because I'm bored as heck and this is the only thing I feel like playing. I recently got savestates because my PSP was turning off for no particular reason while playing WOTL 1.3. According to some forums, if you load a savestate without restarting first it causes a crash later on in the game.

So the crash with the Timed Strike is apparently an old bug (not sure if its fixable or what have you), the PSP turning off randomly seems to be totally unknown so far, and the later freezes are caused by savestates. Awesome.

The random shut off thing appears to be happening frequently for people with my model (PSP-3000) and I'm not sure what I would do to fix it. Does anybody know anything about this problem? The battery is fully charged and secured, and I don't accidentally bump the power either.

EDIT: Also even stranger it only shuts off randomly while playing WOTL 1.3.

EDIT2: So I searched the internet for a while and mostly didn't find anything helpful. But supposedly it could be my battery going loose (even though its secured with the snap on thing). I'm going to try putting something in there to wedge it in like a piece of tape and see what that does.

So.. where is the beta 2 download link?

EDIT: Nevermind the beta 1 link just didn't say beta 2.