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Echoherb

Comprehensive lore list?

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Not directly. However, you can get a good amount of Lores from Gau's rages, which are listed in the printme.

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Aqua Rake

  • Starting Lore

Bad Breath

  • Marlboro: Daryl's Tomb
  • Evil Oscar: Kefka's Tower (outside)
  • Rage: Marlboro

Black Omen

  • Hidon: Ebot's Rock

Blaze

  • Vaporite: Serpent Trench (WoB)
  • Ghost: Phantom Forest
  • Wight: Cave to the Sealed Gate
  • Grenade: Burning House
  • Heartfire: Burning House
  • Red Dragon: Phoenix Cave
  • Rage: Vaporite

Power Slave (below) also has this Rage, in case you miss it from all of the above sources. By the time you meet Power Slave, however, it is far too late to put this Rage to any real use.

Blow Fish

  • Brainpan: Floating Continent (WoB, ruins in WoR)
  • Mu: Phoenix Cave
  • Cactaur: Figaro Desert (WoR) (don't learn it from here without Reflect)
  • Urchin: Cave to the Ancient Castle
  • Phunbaba: Mobliz (WoR)
  • Blue Dragon: Ancient Castle
  • Red Dragon: Phoenix Cave
  • Rage: Brainpan

Discord

  • Onion Kid: Imperial Magitek Factory
  • Tomb Thumb: Yeti's Cave
  • Iron Man: Kefka's Tower (IMF)
  • Jinn: Cave to the Sealed Gate
  • Djinn: Floating Continent (WoB)
  • O-Bake: Zone Eater's Belly
  • Slurm: Mt. Thamasa
  • Tyrano: Dinosaur Forest
  • Kaiser Dragon: Kefka's Tower
  • Rage: Jinn, Onion Kid

Holy Wind

  • Rhodox: Outside South Figaro (WoB)
  • Rabite: Eastern Continent (WoB)
  • Peeper: Solitary Isle
  • Dark Hare: Outside South Figaro & Kohlingen (WoR)
  • Popper: Yeti's Cave
  • Gargoyle: Floating Continent (WoB, ruins in WoR)
  • Mephisto: Ancient Castle
  • Vectaur: Kefka's Tower (outside)
  • White Dragon: Fanatics' Tower
  • !Girl: Final Battle (not that this is actually useful)
  • Rage: Peeper, Gargoyle

Raid

  • Cyborg: Imperial Magitek Factory
  • Robot: Figaro Castle Basement
  • Android: Kefka's Tower (IMF)
  • Kudzu: Mt. Thamasa
  • Atlasphere: Owzer's Mansion
  • Tentacle A: Figaro Castle Basement
  • Hidon: Ebot's Rock
  • Hidonite (all): Ebot's Rock
  • Magimaster: Fanatics' Tower
  • Green Dragon: Kefka's Tower
  • Blue Dragon: Ancient Castle
  • Guardian: Kefka's Tower
  • Kaiser Dragon: Kefka's Tower
  • Rage: Kudzu

Raze

  • Allosaurus: Forest Outside Thamasa (WoR)
  • Revenant: Phoenix Cave
  • WEAPON: Ancient Castle
  • WarMECH: Kefka's Tower (IMF)
  • Atma Weapon: Floating Continent
  • Atma: Kefka's Tower
  • Green Dragon: Kefka's Tower
  • Red Dragon: Phoenix Cave
  • !Girl: Final Battle (not that this is actually useful)
  • Rage: Revenant

Refract

  • ??? (hidden)
  • Witch (Phoenix Cave)
  • Rage: Witch

Shield

  • Hidon (Ebot's Rock)

Tsunami

  • Pond Scum: Cave to the Ancient Castle
  • Blue Dragon: Ancient Castle
  • Magimaster: Fanatics' Tower
  • Kaiser: Kefka's Tower
  • Asura: Kefka's Tower

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Lastly, the Power Slave random in Kefka's Tower (inside) uses every Lore except Shield & Black Omen.

Edited by thzfunnymzn

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Edit: I actually got Raze in Gogo's cave. Some enemies have changed and/or moved.
Raze was also available in Daryl's tomb from the, iirc, Shokan.

For BNW 2.0, for Raze, I couldn't find this enemy after 15 straight battles in this forest:

  • Allosaurus: Forest Outside Thamasa (WoR)

This one also did not cast it:

  • Revenant: Phoenix Cave

From Gau's rage list change log in the readme, it looks like the revenant no longer casts raze?
--> Revenant --- 2/3 to Holy (was Raze); 1/3 to Blaze (was Firestorm)

As suggested, one of Gau's Rage abilities does have Raze, if these present problems, assuming the enemy is available before the Tower of Kefka.
--> Shokan ----- (i.e. Orog) 2/3 to Dark; 1/3 to Raze

Also, this is my second time playing BNW, and both times I did **not** get this from Hidon:

Shield

  • Hidon (Ebot's Rock)

I don't know how to get it.

(When you google for Strago's lore in BNW, you find this page)

Edited by MCP
Got Raze somewhere new

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Hey MCP - I did get Shield from Hidon (first play through) but if memory serves correctly, it wasn't from the first fight because Hidon didn't cast it.  I don't know if there is a trigger though I recall having not to kill any of the adds until Shield was cast.  I could be way off and it just may be a random % chance.  What I can verify is that Hidon did cast it for me.

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One of the Hidonites casts Shield after the first time they are revived. If you kill it before its turn comes, it doesn't end up casting Shield and you miss it. It was moved to a slightly more durable Hidonite for 2.1, and I think maybe even that one was made untargettable so that you can't kill it before it casts Shield after the revival. That might be 2.1.1 though? I'm not really sure when each of these were put in, and if they were in the official branch and not a fork.

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It was a 2.1 change. I made the Hidonite who casts Shield untargetable until he does.

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